Quote from: Inaba on August 28, 2013, 03:12:57 AM

Quote from: k9quaint on August 27, 2013, 10:11:57 PM

Quote from: Inaba on August 27, 2013, 10:04:10 PM

You speak of change, and that's great. But the cost of that change is the insolvency at worst or severely deteriorating business. There is no business in this market that can operate in the altruistic manner you appear to want. BFL is not a charity or a non-profit organization, it's a for profit business. Acting against that would be nonsensicle and once people finally come to accept and understand that bitcoin is now a business and not some pie-in-the-sky dream of libertarians (much to their chagrin, I'm sure), perhaps the fervor and irrationality may die down a bit, but that day is probably a long way off.

I suspected the costs of doing business properly would drive BFL onto the rocks, at best crippling them.

Quote from: Inaba on August 27, 2013, 10:04:10 PM

But just because the world isn't the way you want the world to be (I'm using the royal "you" here, not you specifically) is not an excuse for you to be an asshat on the internet. It's those people I do not care for or respect.

I think it is for precisely that reason that nobody respects you and so many believe that you are running a long-con at BFL. More posts like the previous one (with content and a point about the BFL business) and less of the "monumental assholes" & "douchbags" posts would perhaps undo some of that reasoning.

Like I said, stop being an asshole and a douchebag and you'll get the same respect in return (although you'll have a long, hard road, given your history). Once again, you're a perfect example of the root of the problem. You, quite literally, are the cause of the problem. You find it impossible to approach a situation with rationality and reasonability, instead immediately launching into an adversarial, caustic tone. Literally your first sentence in response is an insult, and that's why you get what you get and I have zero respect for you. I very, very seriously doubt you'll find very many people that disagree with the fact that if you and the rest of the anti-BFL crew stopped posting the same crap over and over on the forums that the placed would be much, much nicer to discuss bitcoin. But as it is now, every single thread you post in turns into a mire of crap. I avoid some threads all together and yet the thread turns into a junkpile the minute you start posting, that should tell you something.

You seem to think the burden of proof is on us. It isn't. It is on you. I am not trying to sell 28nm ASIC dreams for $5K a pop.
You seem to think we have no history, that every post is starting fresh. I gave BFL (and by extension you) 6 months of being late and tossing around insults on these forums before I stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt. The fake shipping of the April 1st unit to dodge a bet was the last straw.

This place would be much nicer place to talk about Bitcoin if BFL refunded people's money who asked for it, and if BFL shipped people their merchandise like they promised they would, and if the BFL rep would stop calling people names and instead live up to his responsibilities. This place would be much nicer if BFL actually had answers for questions, instead of insults.

Avalon is having similar problems delivering (not a year late yet), but you don't see the forum overrun with Avalon hate threads because Yifu doesn't show up here day after day and laugh at his customers and call them assholes and douchebags.

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens
You have been running into assholes all day long every day for a year straight.