Quote from: ajw on August 28, 2013, 09:16:52 PM

Quote from: Bicknellski on August 28, 2013, 09:09:21 PM

Quote from: xstr8guy on August 28, 2013, 08:55:40 PM

Quote from: Bicknellski on August 28, 2013, 08:39:39 PM

It is not even a prototype correct? No gerbers? No BOM even? Just a drawing... what more can you say about it? Other than taking specifications they claim it will have and doing an analysis and then determining whether or not it is a good buy correct?

There's a lot to consider. Pre-orders are open now (Yes, I know BFL's history, no need to discuss further) and early adopters of new ASIC technology have often been greatly rewarded for taking some extra risk. I'm taking that little extra risk and have converted an April pre-order for a Monarch. And now I want to read what other people think, specifically about the Monarch and not about BFL's well-documented history.

And since when do we wait to talk about a future ASIC product? It's pretty obvious to me that any new ASIC announcement generates lots of interest and is immediately a hot topic.

Quote from: Bicknellski on August 28, 2013, 08:39:39 PM

Given what Death is saying in a comparison of the Asicminer Blades vs. 2012 BFL Products that have yet to ship... you might want to really rethink whether or not the Monarch has any value other than a thought experiment into a PCIe miner, seems to be hard to say anymore than that right? Forgive me but doesn't BFL have a forum for all this information. Why would anyone come here to get updated info on this product should you not go to the source?

BitcoinTalk has a larger audience. But I do read and post in BFL's forum too. I like to get as much information as possible.

Yes larger and why we need to make sure that everyone is properly informed almost page per page on each thread in case they are new and miss the important tidbits that you might know but they may not. It be different say that a company was transparent and truthful in every post but obviously given what has happened in the past there are plenty of people looking out for the interests of the larger audience. Again if we had a subforum where information and the tone was PROFESSIONALLY kept then there would be no need to continually pop into a thread and set the record straight or inform people of the dangers.

You must recognize that and given there is NO INFO about this unit and that it is just claims and speculation at this post probably should be filed in a section that is not custom hardware but something that will be coming to market and warning labels BOLDLY affixed to it to protect people from the potential damages it may cause to the bitcoin economy because of past performance. We need a better system than we have currently for these sorts of posts from these types of companies but until that happens I guess we all have to deal with the discord it causes. If one is going to post vapourware... then you should be allowed to be highly skeptical on pretty much every page of the thread. Sorry it is only fair given the poor record for delivery.

how many times has a knc rep come around to cuss you out? (bitcoinorama doesnt count Grin

) none
how many times does Friedcat come around to cuss you out? none
how many times does hashfast come around to cuss you out? none
how many times does Terrahash come around to cuss you out? none
how many times does Yifu come around to cuss you out? NONE

Therefore, it begs the question, What were you thinking or total lack thereof? If you put like that same 110% "i dont give a fuck about you or your problems" into better excuses for failure of delivery, I'd be willing to wager that you wouldn't get the level of opposition that you do.

The moderators need to do something more in keeping with moderation particularly with Josh. It is out of hand he needs to be warned and or sanctioned there are some legitimate concerns being offered and abuse is the problem of the day right? So warn him please.