Quote from: rocks on August 30, 2013, 05:21:00 AM

Thank you for the update Steamboat,

Please do update us on the refund aspect for assembly costs. Burnin stated in his thread at least 50% recovery is likely, more if you reuse components with him for the Bitfury project. Everyone understands there are sunk costs that are not recoverable, but other unperformed services should be recoverable.

Quote from: burnin on August 29, 2013, 01:35:43 AM

I do plan to reuse a lot of components for the bitfury design.
But some can not be reused and will be thrown away, like the PCBs for example.

For those that received a refund i could give a discount on a new bitfury order of about 70% of the not-returned funds.
But we all have to ask ourselves: is bitfury going to deliver?

Executive summary:
50% refund guaranteed.
70% money recovered when ordering a BitFury product.

Understanding what recovery is possible on assembly services has a large impact on deciding whether or not to go ahead with a refund IMHO.

This all may be mute though. In Yifu's latest communication to Zefir he said he much prefers refunds over anything else. His comments also made it sound as if he is having difficulty receiving ASICs at all (shock), which makes me think these batches may all just end up getting canceled refunded regardless what we decide...

Thanks again for the hard work on this steamboat, it is too bad for everyone it has gone this way

Yeah, I agree with this. We need more information from Steamboat regarding possible partial refunds on assembly. I'd like to see that addressed by him personally as soon as possible (yes, I know he's busy).

I also inferred from Yifuk's communication that he has significant doubts as to his ability to ship the chips. I personally feel like that was his back-handed way of telling us no chips would be forthcoming anytime soon. I unfortunately believe he was trying to tell us that further waiting will be fruitless.

In summary, I'd like a refund on my batch 4 chips (let us know how to request this officially, please Steamboat), and I'd like to see further information/discussion on partial assembly refund options.

It's too bad that this has all unraveled - thanks for all the hard work on this Steamboat. I'm sure we are all looking forward to any additional information you have to share.