Quote from: bigbeninlondon on August 30, 2013, 09:38:06 PM

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Quote from: bigbeninlondon on August 30, 2013, 09:28:20 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 30, 2013, 09:14:35 PM

Man, im tired to defend myself to people that doesnt even bother if their claims are true.

I wonder if this is exactly how Bitsyncom feels. Don't mean to kick the hornet's nest, but there's a lot of speculation and accusation going on in this thread and others that is generally baseless as hell. The only two gripes we REALLY have are that the chips weren't delivered on time and Yifu has been very begrudging with information on his side. All this talk about reselling chips and making insane profits and mining with CHIPS that have to be SODERED ONTO A BOARD before they work is just that; talk. Can we please maintain a level head in all of this? Yifu has already stated he's looking into refunds. That's an acknowledgement that shit went wrong and an attempt to rectify the situation. Can all the crazy people take a break for a little while so the grownups can sort shit out please?

read thread carefully, search for tracking numbers, and then skip to page 80 to see chips from china.

Those chips on page 80 prove nothing. Those chips were bought by a reseller for a client that never showed up. How does that prove anything at all? Everything on this thread is pure speculation.

Why the fuck are chips ordered in april, with an 8-10 week leadtime coming down with 2-3x that leadtime?

All the evidence points to the fact that the first batch was indeed ordered, but never showed up. These very few chips that have begun to ship? They were ordered from the fab 8-10 weeks ago from today.

They are fucking chips from TSMC. They've already been made, the masks are good, it's simply a process of ordering more. It's the simplest fucking thing in the world, there is no long and complicated supply chain for a PCB assembly. There is the manufacturer of the chips, and the group buy / private party buying them.