Quote from: PilosopongTacio on February 19, 2018, 09:34:53 AM

Quote from: Parodium on December 02, 2017, 10:27:41 PM

I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.

I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;

1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.

2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?

3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.

I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.

Yes, i believe there is a god and i think it isnt what they describe it from the books..I think it is far from what we expected and its bigger than we thought. I dont know, but i refuse to believe that we only exists because of a random accident happened a long time ago in the cosmos. Big bang theory and stuff. I respect other people who doesnt believe there is a god. But For me, someone or something jumpstarted life in the universe. Because i feel about it and i believe about it. Its my faith.. Not religiously but because of what is obvious for me. There is a god because there is life,and science cant still figure it out where life goes after you die. Because there is love,sex,death,taste buds,beach sunrise and sunset, first glance and touch of a firstborn child, Music etc. Pretty much everything that makes this whole world interesting and beautiful.

Scientists don't even try to determine what happens after you die, as we do not believe in the immortal soul, that is a religious concept. There is no need to prove the obvious, when you die your consciousness stream is lost, and you cease to exist, it is as simple as that. We are able to perceive ourselves because we are conscious, your brain must be operating for you to be conscious, hence if your brain dies, your conscious and hence 'you' die too. There is absolutely zero evidence to believe otherwise.

Scientists only try to prove theories that are realistic, or have some sort of observational evidence behind them, as for life after death, there is none.