Quote from: inspireweb.ro on September 02, 2013, 12:49:33 PM

+ the overclock , the ROI is less than 3 months for one full asic.

I didn't lurk perfectly, but i didn't find any demonstrations of working overclocked k16s, nor valid estimates.
Also, could you give more information about your roi calculations?

a) what's your estimate for difficulty increase per month? are you calculating in MM or %?
b) how much power drawing are you estimating? and for overclocking?
c) how much does the power cost to you? for me is around .2/.25
d) how much hashpower do you plan?
e) are you calculating shipping and delays? There are orders from late april still to ship. Also, the biggest part of orders is earlier than ours.

Quote from: skrubalov on September 02, 2013, 11:55:50 AM

1. I don't need them to ROI, i have payed with bitcoins mined from my farm witch have ROI-d itself long time ago. So this is reinvestemnt for me.
2. I don't pay for electricity
3. They will ROI. It will take 4 months for that according to my calculations.

All this points are really good. Especially 1 and 2:
1. You are getting back less than you had before, so, you're happily losing money.
2. You are either stealing energy or producing solar energy. But winter's coming / fotovoltaic is not for everybody. And stealing is forbidden.

Sad to say, but i must accept the most of you pay energy at better prices than me, and the most don't want to lose the money of the pcb order.
So i will follow la volontè generale, no problem with that.

But, i was thinking, many seem to be planning ROI in 3 months.
So: why nobodys buying my chips at 0.07? I will go back to 0.081 right now, with an estimate like that.