Quote from: cpengr on September 02, 2013, 07:10:28 PM

Quote from: tiros on September 01, 2013, 09:55:02 AM

Quote from: fasmax on September 01, 2013, 06:39:22 AM

It would be nice if this list could track refund status.
I think 3 of SebastianJu group buys have been refunded.

I will be adding refunds in OP.
Refunds will be noted in a way - first in, first out - so shipping delay can be calculated fairly.

tiros, thanks for putting this together. I do agree that refund requests and completion should be tracked in the OP.

However, I don't think that FIFO is the fair way to do it. Seems like it's letting Yifu off easy--which appears to be what's he's trying to make happen.

Suppose you had two spots in Avalon's queue (among many other buyers), and Yifu says, "sorry we're delayed, you'll have to give up your first spot (refund), but keep your second," (EDIT: which is behind many other buyers) would you really think that was fair? The buying should remain FIFO (first-come, first served); thus the refunds should be LIFO. This also shows the full extent of the delay, which I think is appropriate.

When refund is offered for chips shipments that were delayed, once we accept refund or carry on with waiting for delivery, Avalon and Yifu did their parts to undo (at least partly) wrongs they did.
Anyway since chips from various buyers and batches are mixed now, batch number have no meaning anymore.

Yifu is of the hook now, as he did right thing.
Could it been better? It probably could, but we don't have all the info and know stuff that were happening behind closed doors so all we can do is to guess.
Now one thing remains and that is for Yifu to process refund request and give BTC back. He did so for few batches, but zefir didn't got his and right now he is refunding his customers out of his own pocket.