Quote from: HorseRider on September 08, 2013, 07:55:25 AM

Quote from: HorseRider on September 08, 2013, 03:47:24 AM

When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.

A full member PMed me this:

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so he might have us believe....

If any of you had been through such a scary scenario, would you be at all comfortable handing out private information of your buyers to god-knows-who in a weak attempt to negate responsibility of your own errors?

we have all lost considerably due to pure dishonesty, arrogance & incompetence.(mostly dishonesty)

all except the 2 that are hopefully wallowing in the 'chi' that they deserve. (where i am, chi means piss)

IME, anything to do with china/chinese is toxic in 1 way or another. i am disgusted (but not in the least surprised) with the lack of integrity, not to mention delays on everything and little to no explanation other than 'someone else' is at fault...

China / Chinese not really the only people on this planet cornering the market on toxicity, crime and all around unethical business practices given the BFL example we can plainly see humanity in any cultural form is rife with inexcusable behavior. My experience doesn't extend to every Chinese person nor every American or European or African etc. If there is plain evidence of wrong doing from these "businessmen" let us see how well they get on with the FBI or local authorities in China. Given what we have seen paying everyone back is a lot further along continuum than what BFL has wrought but both companies are woefully inadequate models for good corporate governance. Steer clear of both.