Quote from: NewLiberty on September 11, 2013, 01:56:47 AM

Quote from: FirstAscent on September 10, 2013, 05:41:28 PM

Again, nice try. People who want guns are people who want guns. Such discussion about gun restrictions have no effect on those who don't want guns. But go ahead and rationalize things that way if you want - the rationalizations of someone who wants guns.

Please explain why these facts are either not true in your mind, or why you think they are unimportant.
Try to avoid claiming that I have a belief that I have not offered.

I am not claiming that guns are good or bad or that I want them or don't, only that your mission is ill conceived and ill executed.

There may be some really great way to reduce the number of guns. What you are doing is simply the opposite of that. Add to this that you are doing it so poorly and one might easily conclude that you are the one that wants guns, not I.

If you were able to clear your mind, you might realize that by listening to those who question you instead of tossing it on your mental pile of "things people who like guns say", you can improve your rhetoric and have a chance of progressing your agenda instead of running it in the opposite direction.

If you would like to offer more clarity, I'm all ears.