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Quote from: raxiq on March 01, 2018, 06:01:05 PM

This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

actually i think its the first Bitcoin * that is not a pure scam..

never heard of BTCz..
even if it would have the best tech and everything,
without hype and good exchanges is is worthless.
its all about Attraction and Hype.

and Bitcoin Private has a huge Hype and attention.
if Binance really will support trading i dont think ZCL holders have made a loss.

Your right, but only for very short term.
Yes marketting and hype are importants for speculatives operations, but only for very short term, generally very dangerous (we have a perfect example here for those who have buying ZCL to participate to this fork : they have lost 85% of they money).
BTCz is a long term coin, like BTC : the goal is the same marketcap as Bitcoin, but in a shorter time, before the first halving.

BTCZ doesn't seem to have too much miner support. This is one of the most crucial things when it comes to pow coins. ZCL had (and still has) huge miner support and so will BTCP.
Tbh I'm a miner my self and with fast googling couldn't even find proper reliable pools. This made me give up the idea of mining BTCZ instantly. I know BTCP has proper pool support, so I am happy to mine that when mainnet is launched.

I think these are different coins with same kind of idea (all Z are based on privacy as they have zksnarks). BTCP is merged from 2 coins, so you can't really say they stole the idea from BTCZ. BTCZ is basically just another Z coin in the family with BTC supply.

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