Quote from: nullius on March 07, 2018, 11:31:21 AM

Quote from: jonsi on March 07, 2018, 09:24:15 AM

Collateral damage is when you don't take part in something in any way, shape or form and you end up taking damage. As I see it, this is not the case here at all.

Well, what would you call it when the victim of a crime (thus technically involved) gets put through the wringer in an ensuing investigation?

Quote from: jonsi on March 07, 2018, 09:24:15 AM

I'm a long time user of this forum and I see Lauda defending aTriz, no matter what, but in this case, there is little to defend here and the only one that could do this is aTriz.

If you think that aTriz did something wrong, please go question him in the aTriz accusation thread.

Quote from: jonsi on March 07, 2018, 09:24:15 AM

Anyway, if you could give the benefit of the doubt to aTriz for vouching for the script then the same applies to alia for trying to sell it.
There are two situation: or you believe that they were both sincere and they truly thought that the script was working and making a profit, or you don't. They are both in the same boat.

One of several huge differences: When informed by maths-savvy folks that the script is impossible, aTriz backed away from the script as if from a poisoned gobletwhereas alia got into a days-long flamewar/temper tantrum wherein she shrieked that stupid equations and mathematical jumbo jumbo dont apply to her precious script. Then finally admitted that it doesnt work. Now, is back to claiming that it worksand its worth 50 BTC!

1. Let's be honest here, to state that aTriz is the victim of a crime it means to think that all users of this forum are sheeps.
Let's stick to the facts and disregard the wording conotation:
- aTriz accepted the script from alia
- aTriz tested the script
- aTriz vouched for the script
So, are there any other facts that make him the "victim of a crime"?

2. I didn't stated that aTriz did something wrong or he didn't, but why didn't Lauda get the same treatement from you (to go in the aTriz accusation thread) when she brought up the subject? All I did, it was to quote him/her from this thread.

3. If aTriz have no experience with gambling and scripting and odds and math, shouldn't he have asked the maths-savvy folks before vouching for the script? Isn't this trust means, that you can trust the person will make an educated statement?

Anyway, this are just normal questions, but I can see that this is a sensitive subject for some of you and react aggressive.