Quote from: Kaelke on March 07, 2018, 11:04:47 PM

Quote from: kaneo on March 07, 2018, 10:07:42 PM

Quote from: Kaelke on March 07, 2018, 04:59:18 PM

Quote from: BWK_VoxTerra on March 06, 2018, 05:26:09 PM

Quote from: Kanny on March 06, 2018, 08:06:59 AM

The coin is dead, the developers have sold their supplies, soon the scum! Run fools! The course fully shows the inaction of the developers!

Can you prove we dumped our coins? Because we can prove we havent.

If you can prove you did not, then why didnt you post that proof along with saying you can prove it?

At this point, you're both little kids yelling at eachother, both without backing your statements up...

It's a complete fabrication that we have dumped any coins.

Firstly, you can view all the pre-mined coins on our block explorer and see they haven't been getting moved around.

Furthermore, we give away about 140+ BWK every week on Discord and Telegram and are budgeted to continue this all year. At this point it's becoming a waste of time to listen to one person's crazed ramblings, as we have explained that he is wrong multiple times while community members have also explained that if he isn't happy with the coin he should just stop obsessing over us here.

If people were to offer any evidence our coins were dumped, please share it, and we will happily discuss the situation further, but I have a gut feeling there is no evidence to be provided (as nothing has been dumped).

Don't get me wrong here, at this point i personally am on nobody's side. I sold all my BWK and at this moment i will not mine it until (if) the price goes up.

That being said, my question to the devs would be this: Can you post a link, or whatever, showing you are holding the premine?
The reason for this question is simple. As long as you do not provide the proof, you cannot expect others to post opposing proof either. You are saying A, they are saying B. Someone looking at this conversation cannot see proof of either side and thus has no way of telling who is telling the truth.
Sure, experienced people might be able to figure out where to go and what to look at to either prove or disprove your point, but Johnny Random has no clue and will not trust either side. This results in a situation that is mainly bad for the devs, because Johnny Random will see it as "a lot of bullshit going on" and most probably decide to not mine/buy or do whatever with your coin.

Get it over with, post an explanation with some links so Johnny Random can easily determine which side is speaking the truth. If you are right, Johnny Random will trust the coin no matter what another Johnny Random says about it, and be much more inclined to trade or mine BWK. That would be my advice.

Unfortunately, it isn't as easy as pointing to 1 or a handful of addresses thanks to new change addresses being made for each transaction, but for anybody who would like to prove for themselves that the pre-mine hasn't been dumped there are a few important things to look at:

1) The genesis block:

https://altmix.org/coins/10-Bulwark/explorer/block/1

If you follow the trail of transactions, you will see that at no point was a huge chunk of the pre-mine transferred away, nor did any coins transferring away coincide with price dips you would see if that many coins were sold.

2) Further to this, just by looking at the rich list you can see there are a number of addresses up there that equate to a huge portion of the pre-mine. If we "sold all our coins" you would see the pre-mine split between the addresses of all the individuals who bought it.

https://altmix.org/coins/10-Bulwark/explorer/richList

3) Our project is being actively worked on and developed, the team are still running giveaways and engaging with the community. If we had pumped the coin, sold and made our money - why would we continue to build our community and continue the project? what would we stand to gain?

I think this will be our final post on the matter, unless some real evidence does pop up (it won't) and I would advise anybody reading FUD with relations to our project's pre-mine to direct the poster to this post or to Discord/Telegram.