Quote from: itod on September 20, 2013, 02:19:01 PM

You keep forgetting some facts:

I cant forget "facts" Ive never known about. Much less facts that arent. That said

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- KNC are in different situation than any other ASIC ever produced. We've never seen 100% a month difficulty growth, and we may see much higher figures very soon.

I wasnt talking about bitcoin asics, Im talking about asics in general. And if you think KnC is the first company to face a huge time to market pressure, well, you're wrong.
In fact, the pressure really isnt on KnC so much as its on its customers. KnC already collected, and a few days or a few weeks of delays doesnt cost them much, if anything. Its their customers who stand to lose, but if KnC delivers only one or two weeks behind schedule, not many will complain and only a fool would charge back and go stand in line at a competitor.
And we are not talking about weeks, I dont know why I keep saying that, we are talking about.. well, no time at all really.

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- They don't have a facilities to do the chip-level resting in-house, only the board level testing.

Thats a fact I hadnt read about. But not a surprising one. Nor should it matter, it seems extremely unlikely that the fab wouldnt have a wafer probe nor the assembly house either a wafer probe nor chip testing equipment. That just isnt gonna happen. And even if that were the case:

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- If they try to do chip-level testing for a whole batch #1 of their chips in China, it could take a week (or two).

You wouldnt send it across the globe, you would find a company offering testing services in the same building or at least same campus. Dont you think each and every customer of the packaging house needs testing? Not finding a testing facility less than a stone throw away sounds about as likely as a hospital without coffee machines or news stand

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- They don't have tested design yet. They may have a single problem in the design which can slow them down a week (or two) to solve.

Sure, not sure how that makes a point against wafer and/or chip testing. On the contrary, you would want to know what is going wrong with every non functional miner. Is it a bad PCB? Bad assembly? Bad packaging? Bad die's ? Where on the wafer were the bad dies located? That sort of stuff. Hard to find out after you packaged and assembled everything. All you know is it doesnt work for some reason.

Anyway, this discussion isnt important enough to continue, but Im pretty sure you have it wrong.