Quote from: hacko.bg on September 21, 2013, 10:00:51 PM

I don't nor can't see the point of this to be decided by vote, signed message, etc. Whoever feels that he/she must leave the fee to marto74, should leave it. Whoever does not feel this way - he/she shouldn't.

After all, everybody blames on Avalon for missed obligations - the group buyers didn't get their chips, had blocked coins for more than 3 months, in which time frame many things could have happened with this coins if they were in hand. Same goes to Martin, if somebody claims his/her fee to be returned, he can blame it on Avalon, as we all do.

As for me, I didn't order any boards for Martin, I have 11 avalon reference design units in cartoon box next to me, for which I throw my time and money beside the fee for the chips and I don't feel I have to leave the fee to Martin, so I'll be glad to get it back, sorry.

Quote from: marto74 on September 21, 2013, 09:08:06 PM

Quote from: fex on September 21, 2013, 08:04:32 PM

Quote from: marto74 on September 21, 2013, 06:53:08 PM

My fee of 7 % will be voted in Monday by all participants excluding jkminkov

If we assume that jkminkov would have voted against the fee, the votes for his 980 chips are missing. Also, I think that mainly people who requested a refund will vote against the fee (everybody else gets the chips for the conditions they agreed to, so no reason to vote against the fee). Currently, there are refund requests for 5557 chips [1]. If you exclude jkminkov's 980, there are 4577. So even if everybody who requested a refund, votes against the fee, it is impossible to reach over 5000 votes (50% of group buy).

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your work on the ASIC hardware. I'm just not sure if this is a fair vote. Why have a vote if the outcome is clear as day?

[1] sum of chips from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217316.msg3201799#msg3201799

You are right .
instead of vote I'll ask everybody of the refunded orders to decide himself

Ok
you'll get it in 25 days.
Consider your fee in this group as a gift

Regards: Martin