Quote from: -Redacted- on September 22, 2013, 09:46:05 PM

Quote from: superduh on September 22, 2013, 08:54:49 PM

Quote from: nullspot on September 22, 2013, 08:39:07 PM

Quote from: superduh on September 22, 2013, 07:33:37 PM

so august shipping was end of august beginning of sept and oct shipping is going to be sometime in beginning.
can't please everyone in bitcoin world but you can def hurt people. if oct ships in beginning august orders were substantially overpriced

Are we doing this again? You can't "hurt" people who have already received their products by shipping other orders on time or early. Everyone who placed orders for *any* batch took a calculated risk, not knowing the future. The prices reflected the opportunity, nothing more.

Hypothetically, if every August batch order had shipped exactly on Aug. 31st, but the October batch orders didn't ship until November 15th, due to typhoons disrupting Asian supply routes -- or a cockroach got stuck in a PCB machine, disrupting production, would you also claim that the October customers were "hurt" by the on-time delivery of August batch? Bullshit. You don't penalize one set of customers unnecessarily just to "spread the misery" because another set of customers had unfortunate luck.

you are 100% (not even a fraction less) wrong about this. no point trying to explain to you since it seems you can't understand. it was implied several times that october orders were going to be shipped towards the end of october. this is a *zero-sum game* and you are 100% wrong - i'm surprised you can't even see the actual logic behind this.

also, your example about delays doesn't even make any sense. the people hurt by that delay would be oct orders and not august orders at all since people in october knew with certainty about delivery of august units first. yikes.

if you read my post correctly you will see that i'm not demanding or asking for anything i'm just stating facts.

No. YOU are the one 100% wrong here. Sorry. It's too bad you feel like you are being hurt because you choose to interpret October shipping in a particular manner. And BTC is not a zero sum game - just because someone else gets one doesn't mean that you get zero.

dude, you seem intelligent in certain ways but not all ways. it was initially stated/hinted that october deliveries would be towards the end of month (fact). i'm not interpreting i'm just repeating facts of what was mentioned. and yes the last fucking sentence you say is true in a way that - the more *other people* getting btc the chance of august orders getting btc approaches zero.. how many people on here don't have any clue about economics or math or statistics or just basic 1+1 skills. i'm right, you're wrong, get over it and let me say my facts without badly conceived
harassment.

i also assume people here don't understand what this idea is for some odd reason - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_game

let's not spend time trying to distort reality. instead focus on the future- regardless, October will likely not ROI either
btw, out of pure curiosity i wonder how many people knew about 200th from bitfury 's private pool coming online.