Quote from: itod on September 23, 2013, 01:26:00 PM

Quote from: mrthundercleese on September 23, 2013, 11:07:13 AM

Quote from: itod on September 23, 2013, 07:46:24 AM

Quote from: Shimple on September 23, 2013, 04:47:08 AM

Lets be serious. They seemed pretty damn legit at the beginning

I'm not a TH buyer so I keep my mouth shut in this thread, but have to comment on this. Hardware vendor selling preorders of other people's design regardless of original designer explicitly stating it's too early to sell? It smelled badly right from the start and was obvious to anyone they are not able to finish the design themselves. That was the reason I stayed away from TH, and it's amazing someone with 30 sample Avalon chips haven't sent 16 of them to TH and called their bluff few months ago. The only reason they sold so many preorders was they are USA company, and you have to admit large, large majority of people who got scammed are from USA. I don't have nothing against someone being his-own-country centric, but sometimes it comes to bite you in the a**. Anyone who claims TH were not extremely fishy right from the start is not telling the truth either to him self or to the others.

TH wasn't any fisher than any other unproven asic hw vendor. You must have forgotten the 4 or 5 other non us based developers working with the klondike who also sold pre-orders. [bold]The difference here is that the others appear to be still active.[/bold]

And how many of those 4 or 5 other non us based Klondike developers scammed thousands of people? Exactly. Zero. Everybody knew they could not deliver on their own. But TH was a USA company so it has to be good, hasn't it?

You asserted that you knew they were not legit from the beginning and that they couldn't deliver on their own and I think that's just not true. They were working with BkkCoins and made many posts in the klondike dev thread so they knew they would need help.

The fact is that they aren't the only klondike developer who sold a bunch of pre-orders and hasn't delivered a product. There are a bunch of people who don't have a product or their money back from both the USA 'company' and non-us based klondike developers. The other developers haven't faded off into the darkness like TH (which is what I said before) so kudos to them.

Not trying to be mean but being captain hindsight doesn't help anyone. It's just self gratification. The right thing to do would have been to try to warn people like btceic and the others. Even though I'm not cool with some of the things that were said by those folks, they did try to warn us and that deserves a compliment.

And lastly, being an american I'm having a problem with your "those damn americans" inference. Yeah, I said it. What now?! I'm only joking with you

. Can we move on now?