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Quote from: tarmi on September 23, 2013, 02:02:43 PM

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?

They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to

Look. The rodent finally admitted he is a KNC shill. Just a few days before they are supposed to ship, as his PR shill job is done. Oh the integrity!

For integrity purposes, I'll post the full quote.

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on September 23, 2013, 02:28:44 PM

Nope, and I never have been, and I've stated this numerous times. They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to, if they prove a working product. Integrity wise I will not prior, and neither have I ever told anyone to purchase from them, or anyone else until such time as they have a working product, at which point i'd be a fool not to.

So technically he is still not working for KnC but yes, please by all means resurrect this useless thread.

If it's useless, why do you feel the need to reply?

I never said he was already on the KNC payroll, but as I said in the other thread, I would not be surprised if he is in line for a free miner or two for this PR/marketing efforts. Payment in kind - you understand? He is totally impartial with a job offer on the table? Right. I'll believe that. He hasn't done a single thing to "encourage" people to buy from KNC. Right. I'll buy that too.

I even sent him a few private messages (you can see them above - oh the integrity!) when I joined the forum, as he seemed to be the go-to guy when it came to KNC. But yeah, he hasn't influenced anyone. I'll buy that.

Sorry had to show the PMs as you were behaving totally out of line. I had to show you asked me reasonable questions, and I gave you sincere answers. That I had shown no ill favour, and provided no justifiable reason behind your current nastiness directed towards me. For the little I knew of you, you're behaving out of character for someone I had just courteously helped for no reason other than kindness. I'm still utterly confused and angered you're behaving this way hen I took the time, my time to respond. Have KnC offered anything under the table? no. Would I like to have 1 miner for every buyer that's bought based on using my words in their decision process? in hindsight fuck yeah. Did I know they were going to open up an affiliate program? no. Am I part of it? no. Have I stated I absolutely will not be part of it until they prove a working product? Yes. Have I stated I don't think they should run with one until they have a proven working product? yes. Is it my business what they decide currently? no. Am I expecting payment currently? Flight and accommodation would damn well be considerate. Did they pay for that last time? No, and yes I have the card statement to prove it. They mentioned something about rewarding members of the community and opening it up for the forum to decide at the point of production at the open day, but I haven't structured my habits around that, thank. $7k for 3/4 months of being on this forum is peanuts. Believe it or not I've followed this forum as it's been an exciting engineering race, and is 21st century prospectors dream. You couldn't make the BFL/Avalon stories up, neither could you about the engineering feat KnC have decided to tackle. In hindsight it's both madness and the only sensible solution for any legitimate competitor. Aim for the front as it's where it's going anyway. I've been brutally honest in this forum the entire time, every damn prediction I have made about every company has been spot on. Why the fuck am I being persecuted, still? At the time of this thread starting I was being given beef about being pro KnC, and being critical towards Xcrowd, and Hashfast; well; Where are XCrowd? How many times has Hashfast changed it's terms of sale since this thread started, and never told their customers? Noticed this addition a little over a week ago, I have an account set up on changedetection.com tracking changes of terms on most manufacturers sites; on the 9/11 when they changed their terms 4 times in one week;

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20. ENTIRE AGREEMENT; SEVERABILITY. These Terms, together with the order confirmation(s) sent from Hashfast to Buyer, are the entire agreement between Buyer and Hashfast with respect to its subject matter and supersedes all prior oral and written understandings, communications, or agreements between Buyer and Hashfast. No agreement is made between Buyer and any Affiliate. Hashfast may revise, update, or otherwise amend these Terms by posting such amended Terms on its website, and such amended Terms will govern Buyers purchases if accepted by Buyer as provided in Section 1. No amendment to or modification of these Terms, in whole or in part, will be valid or binding against Hashfast unless it is in writing and manually executed by an authorized representative of Hashfast. If any provision of these Terms should be found to be void or unenforceable, such provision will be stricken or modified, but only to the extent necessary to comply with the law, and the remainder of the provisions will remain in full force and effect.

I'm not the one being devious, above is written consent that a company is awarding itself the power to change and/or negate all terms of sale without forewarning to any of it's customers, when they have been changing their terms of sale the entire time without forewarning any of it's customers, and involved in grossly questionable marketing practices whilst actively taking all steps to remove payment security and accountability.

The crown for being a safe and honest choice for people here has been open for anyone's taking. Why will so few companies attempt this feat? Why shoot me for pointing out what nobody else focuses on. The only people who are pissed off are the ones who are no longer making money from screwing people over here. I like Cointerra, they are making progress, but their chip estimations are theoretical best case. Bitfury has a product in hand and I have never said a bad word about him. One of the first to congratulate Punin in thread, on the day. I mention KnC, then; shill this, shill that because I paid them a visit and stood up for an honest business, and pointed out the dishonest shenanigans occurring elsewhere.

Has KnC taken massive strides into proving everything I said was true? What the hell is the problem with being honest on this f**king forum?!?