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Pff so getting my money back is out of the question Cry

currently overwhelmed, but I'll look into it, I don't have a problem with refunds if that was indeed a problem, but I do get a lot of shills that jumps on the brand wagon with batch 2 walletbit problem to request a refund for non-existing orders.

even right now, people are putting order number into that refund form for chips that does not exist, ( and in a phishing manner like consecutive order numbers, we don't use consecutive numbers for orders.)

til this date im still waiting on and answer from BitSyncom he promised that he wood look into it im still waiting can you pleas send me a refund asap i know your overwhelmed but how overwhelmed can you be next month its gona be a year since a place the order

BitSyncom, just pay up and be done with it. How can you sleep at night?

I hope you dream of all the customers you fucked up. What happened to trade-ins?

So sad to think I used to think he was kinda nerd cool & I offered to try to help him dig out of his self-inflicted hole. Angry

this really sucks man i need the refund 2 buy some new hard ware avalon is slowing up my businesses you know how much money i mist out on more than a year worth of salary dam

Not sure if everyone noticed, they've cashed out : https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU

And also this address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN

Among all the hardware vendors, Avalon profits the most. Why no1 believed me when i said their " intention" was clear about MONEY! way back with their no-BS claim and that they're making ASICs for the sake of mining distribution.

PPL just like to learn the hardway. They've been mining since batch 1 as well.

But Yifu stated on record;

"This is an obvious question, but why arent you mining your own chips?

Like I said, the current reality is vastly different from what we originally had planned. We always figured we would be late to the party. Butterfly Labs and bASIC (another ASIC developer that ultimately failed to launch) were supposed to launch in succession. But due to various complications and delays, it didnt work out that way.

If they had delivered on their promises, they would have shipped months before our first batch. We wanted to start selling chips so people could make their own units, providing a hedge from a single entity becoming too powerful, and then move onto a new project. That was our main goal. We wanted to prevent this potential monopoly. As it turned out, we became the monopoly we tried to prevent.

You arent doing any mining at all?

Nope. Fun fact: none of the Avalon team have their own mining units (outside of test units)."

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/engineering-the-bitcoin-gold-rush-an-interview-with-yifu-guo-creator-of-the-first-asic-based-miner

I don't really care if day mined with the units or are still mining with them send me a refund so i can go get me my mining equipment an go do my thing. batch one customers are the kick starters of this whole avalon project and up till this day ther are customers with missing units never received that's not Wright