Quote from: stevebrush on March 15, 2018, 09:04:56 AM

I don't understand this fear of asic : it's the same difference with cpu/gpu. Why, if I make IRD asic proof, I do not have to make it gpu proof ? it will be fair too. Personally I do not have any rig, nor a correct GPU for mining.

One more time, IRD emission do not care about hashrate attacks due to the difficulty algorithm implemented in V2. monero or electroneum do not have this (yet). So, asic owner will earn the same IRD amount as one with 10 Vega but I want to see an asic proof of work first : cryptonight use huge memory to be computed.

From what I see, people think of their interest first, but not the interest of community.
I think we have to understand all the parameters before making a decision.

It's always the same game : buying/selling...

The ASIC thing and possible POW change is a delicate issue with huge implications. I don't own or use any ASICs for mining, so I am not a fan at all. But I also have no negative sentiments against people or coins using ASICs and against progress in general.

On the short term it is much more important to see the real implications and leave the ideological ones for later.

For instance: Will the developers of mining software still maintain the CryptoNightV1 in their coming versions of the software, or will it be dropped and only CryptoNightV2 be included? If the latter, then IRD miners will be stuck with old versions of the miner forever. Since Claymore et al won't improve or maintain an algorithm which isn't used anymore by any major coin. And of course, software aside, current IRD miners (with CPUs/GPUs) would be completely wiped out by anyone with access to just a couple of those 200kH/s ASICs. The blockchain and coin issuance certainly won't care because IRD has probably the best difficulty adjustment algorithm now, but remaining on CryptoNightV1 will mean a huge extinction event in the base of miners. It's not something that will happen gradually, but over night. Which means a huge impact on the general user base, which for young coins is always dominated by people who mine.

I am sure there are many more arguments pro and contra a change to CryptoNightV2. I think it should be discussed, because the first CryptoNight ASICs will ship soon.
The Baikal one (probably FPGA, not ASIC) is weak in terms of hashing power and a few units of that one won't make a dent. But once those >200kH/s monsters are being shipped, we should know which path we want to go.