Quote from: FirstAscent on October 01, 2013, 11:34:02 PM

Quote from: pand70 on October 01, 2013, 11:26:24 PM

Many environmentalists have hidden agentas.
I don't hate them but my first reaction towards someone that claims to be an environmentalist is that he is a hypocrite.
That being said i think we all must do our share for a cleaner environment.

Your viewpoint simply isn't constructive. Doing your share isn't about recycling bottles. What "doing your share" really is, is understanding what's really going on, or, of you're not interested, then "doing your share" means, don't make statements that environmentalists are hypocrites.

You're not helping the problem here.

Quote from: FirstAscent on October 01, 2013, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: westkybitcoins on October 01, 2013, 11:34:51 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on October 01, 2013, 11:19:52 PM

Quote from: westkybitcoins on October 01, 2013, 10:32:30 PM

It might help if you delineate between pollution issues and others in your mind. Again, most people are on board with stopping pollution. But the public image of environmentalists is NOT of courageous people stopping the powerful from polluting on innocent people's property. Not by a long shot. Using that aspect of activism as a starting point is going to lead you astray if you really want to know what's behind this study's results; to address the image problem, you have to address the actual intrusions of environmental activists into private affairs (i.e., no third party [EDIT: as in a *person*] is getting their property, food, water or air damaged.)

Please stop making posts until you have digested that long post I made.

No.

So you're engaging in willful ignorance then?

I'm ignoring irrelevancies.

If you expect the average person to spend dozens of hours studying up on environmental issues, or to take steps to become "fully environmentally aware" or whatever before they can open their mouth or speak out against a law, you're not only being unreasonable, but your insistence is fueling the negative backlash on environmentalists, and by association environmentalism.

The topic here is why do people dislike environmentalists. I don't think you're giving that thought much consideration in your responses.