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When the KMD dev sees a flaw in our code and chooses to exploit it, it's a problem. Do you think we intended for Komodo genesis notaries to be able to mine free coins? Was that our mistake, hell yes it was and it was a damn bad one because it turns out the KMD devs are not to be trusted.

Why do you so sure that was KMD dev team members mined your coin? Believe me, i wish your project only bright future and if you will implement in it something new and useful to the community, for example, new tech or another interest solution - it will be great. But, unfortunatelly, currently SAFE coin looks like scam. Why i think so? Let's look:

1. If it was serious long time project - devs never release this code with KMD notaries public keys inside. Have you heard anything about the stages of the software development life cycle? Before release every software should going through many checks, tests and this is months of hard work.
2. Unfortunatelly, we don't see any work here. SAFE coin devs just forked (i wish to call it "copy & paste", like in middle school) KMD sources, changed KMD strings on SAFE and tried to introduce it as new project. Do you think it's seriously? Will you deny that no one of devs has even tried to understand the essence of how this works? From side look like "devs" of SAFE don't tried to clarify for itselfs too much moments inside a code. Otherwise, they would have created their own notary.
3. Ok. Let's explain that SAFE is not one-day project, not scam ... what we have? Only copy & pasted sources and few screenshots in SAFE thread, which can be drawn in maximum per hour. Whitepaper? No. Official site - doesn't work. Explorer? Haven't.

What SAFE have you may asked? Only topic on this forum with a few screenshots, copy & pasted code, and ambitious statements and charges. Nothing more (currently).

p.s. About mining. Everybody could start safe coin daemon with one of notaries public key and mine SAFE. Also, everybody could start mining with all notaries_elected pubkeys. Why? For example, to show people this project is not serious, even if its developers do not understand how it works. Of course, if somebody mined SAFE with komodo's notaries pubkeys - he can't spent it without privkeys, but in order to show the incompetence of developers - this is enough.

1. Notaries were planned for a later stage, and yes the harmfulness of leaving those in the code, was overseen and your dev gladly used this error to snatch some coins - however he screwed that up and for the SAFE community it looked like a deliberate attack first (until clarification that is was meant to be 'only' a little coin grabbing activity)
2. SAFE is about 2 month old, how much new feastures do you expect in that short time frame from a small group of part-time devs? Please be realistic
3. There is a website (safecoin.org) , please check it out, there were two block explorers (before the fork) and overall the community was quite happy with the progress until your Dev fucked it all up during his lil' raid.

Safecoin is a scam coin. Created only for pump and dump. What kind of delusional brain deaded people blame others for their own mistake. What kind of idiot copy and paste source code and release without checking? Safecoin says it's dPOW, where is the proof?

Just go away you mean ill-minded trolls.

So, how they scammed anyone? There was not even one offer to buy or sell coins.
Please inform yourself before making any accusations. Thanks.

They are frauds, if they dont have notaries and are not notarizing yet claim to be using DPoW

Actually who gives a Sh.. about this dPoW stuff for a coin that is not even listed on any market? Maybe our dev thought it KMD is a well advanced tech and did not expect this to be buggy as fuck.
Thas was his mistake in the first please, but does not shed a good light to KMD as well.

All these accounts trolling are newbie accounts. Only screams scam! Where you will be thankful and happy that a bug has been found, instead you are blaming for your own mistake. Do you also blame god for making you this way with some bugs in you? You copy-paste someone's code, you make mistake and blame others. Only means blind trolls.

Look, I don't want to troll, but somehow discussions often end up like this, because there are two sides of the story.
Yes, I admit that our dev oversaw this vulnerability during the implementation but it was also not good behaviour to try to use this error to get greedy and fuck up the whole network instead of just informing the safe community that there might be vulnerabilities. I bet our dev would have given him much greater rewards than he was able to grab by himself.

I am done now, because I know I cannot convince anyone here and that is fine, but seeing the behaviour of the involved persons in the last few days (our community members and some of yours) I made my decision what is the more "ethical" way to go and which intensions were behind.
I wish your project all the best but if someone comes along and wants to build something new on your platform (in the spirit of open source) don't push them around as you did with us.