Quote from: Rassah on October 23, 2013, 08:00:58 PM

How would those landowners passify the plebs if democracy was no longet an option, I wonder?

By installing a state Tongue

Quote from: Rassah on October 22, 2013, 03:36:02 PM

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Quote from: cp1 on October 22, 2013, 03:13:47 AM

Quote from: Mike Christ on October 21, 2013, 06:48:35 AM

Out of curiosity, how many people are just now finding out they're libertarian? Really, I think most people, especially those who don't want to involve themselves in popular politics, will find they're libertarian; anyone who simply believes in being and letting be counts as a good person to me. The only difference is whether the person self-identifies as libertarian or not; considering the amount of dissenters toward the increasingly authoritarian America, it is quite easy to see, we at least generally agree that we don't want what's become.

The problem is that there's the libertarian "let people smoke pot if they want I don't care" and there's the libertarian "let people die in the streets if they don't have money to eat I don't care". The latter keeps most people from identifying with libertarianism.

"I don't care" is not what it is.

It is: "It's not my responsibility and of I choose to do anything about it, this should be out of my own free will instead of mandated by some retarded centralized state people like to call my country."

I think it is more along the lines of, "I think the way to solve problems is not by using force and violence of the inefficient state welfare, but voluntary charity programs that help people who are in need and do not have other options.

Didn't want to feel left out, so I'll chime in Grin

I think it's mostly: if you keep removing consequences, people will not learn to avoid bad decisions, and will become dependent on you having to remove more and more consequences. Right up to the point where you have no more means to remove consequences, and it all breaks down in protests, riots, and an economy in shambles.

To sum it up, libertarianism is ethics in application. To put it more bluntly, libertarianism is to hone one's actions and to be fully expectant of the reciprocal, of reaction. To put it very bluntly, libertarianism is to mature and be a capable, responsible adult. To sum it up in a popular colloquialism, libertarianism is to man up.

Quote from: cp1 on October 22, 2013, 01:56:57 PM

Well you can disagree with taxes, but you still have to pay them.

This is not an argument; it is a demand.

This is what separates the authoritarians from the libertarians: one uses threats, the other uses reason.