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I think most people want the EU.

No borders anymore is beneficial for all involved. Brings peace and prosperity.

Union itself is a very good thing.
Problem here is that it is being controlled by evil people, but don't blame the Union, blame the people!

a super-state is not needed to be free, quite the opposite.
idiots

Precisely, I don't want a government, be it national or continental ...

You want to stand on your porch with a shotgun, protecting your property from ruffians?

Nope. I don't want a government. I didn't say I hate collaboration. I hate things and people which involuntarily limit my freedoms.

Governments are the most inefficient entities that have ever existed (EU is one of the "best). I couldn't construct something more wasteful if I tried.