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Quote from: cypherdoc on July 07, 2011, 02:02:02 PM

2 major stock crashes, one huge ongoing housing crash, gold and silver surging and being the #1 investment during the last 11 yrs suggests that he's on to something. oh i forgot to mention the wealth disparity being the highest since 1929. you know what happened after that...

And this proves the dollar has no value and is "theirs, not yours"... how? Sure seems like you're just blaming every problem you can think of on the nearest scapegoat.

Quote from: kloinko1n on July 07, 2011, 02:45:58 PM

'Real life' has shown how the economy goes bust time and again due to the manipulations of the bankers and for their profits only.
You fail to see and/or accept that you're lied to through a large state-and-commerce-run propaganda machine.

You, on the other hand, fail to see and/or accept that the problems you complain about were actually much worse before that system came into being. Kind of like insisting that since Vioxx caused heart attacks, modern medicine is a sham and we should go back to spells and bleeding.

I see something else. And that is the state of Dakota which runs its own bank, not a private bank which they have to borrow from, and they are doing well, very well. So problems are not necessary at all when a state runs its own bank, instead of let the money be supplied by a 'private entity', to state it friendly.
And don't start about the very profitable 'modern medicine'.
Aye! You just did! Your bad luck

So, to quote Hypocrates: "Let the food be your medicine and the medicine your food" and you will need a lot less of that 'modern medicine'.
Or to quote a 12 year old speaker on TED: "You can pay the farmer, or you can pay your doctor, the choice is yours."
Newcastle University research for instance recently showed that diabetes 2 can be cured, mind you: definitively cured, by a simple diet alone.
Did any doctor tell you that already? No. Yet this was already well known and frequently pointed out by so called 'alternative medicine', but utterly rejected by 'modern medicine' as 'unscientific', 'anecdotical', or with that other show-stopper: "No proof has been found to support these statements."
No, it's not always the majority that is right. And majority may even be wrong more often than you think, as by definition it's the masses that are easily manipulated by propaganda.

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Quote from: cypherdoc on July 07, 2011, 02:50:46 PM

how do you know he's a victim? for all i know, he's a bankster/perpetrator. we've got those guys crawling around here trolling routinely now, IMO.

"...it's much more comforting to tell yourself everyone who disagrees with you is uneducated, trolling, or an enemy agent than to face the possibility that you're wrong."

Thanks for proving my point!

Ok, nice ranting.
Now, what are your arguments?