Quote from: Discourze on April 04, 2018, 06:57:50 PM

Quote from: itsandylandman on April 04, 2018, 05:53:16 PM

We need to make sure that the AI understands that our imperfection as a species makes us actually superior to AI... If you cut off the mutations and our ability to fail and learn from our failure (which AI would think it was SAVING us from) then humans as a species stop evolving. If we are evolving we are devolving in some way...

That's an amazing perspective. Those post apocalyptic movies always end up having an AI form that says, "in order to save mankind, we must destroy it before it..." Usually leading to the end of humanity until some superhero figure (John Connor) comes and leads the revolution against the machines. How do we get them to understand that they are flawed because they are perfect, though?

Quote from: itsandylandman on April 04, 2018, 05:53:16 PM

Not to mention that statistically, its MUCH more probable that we are living in an artificial simulation than in the real reality... Wouldn't it make sense that we would put everyone (as a child) in simulated experiences in order to teach them the lessons they need to learn so they can become "enlightened" to the right way of living? ... Maybe they just pull us out of the continuous simulation once we are ready....

So, like a secondary reality where we're hooked up to a machine that performs as many "reincarnations" as it takes before we've reached enlightenment and can function and appreciate a utopian society? Like, we're brought intrinsically flawed into this world and the simulations help us understand how to get rid of all the imperfections of "needs" and be self sufficient, repeating life until we finally reach a digital nirvana.

Quote from: itsandylandman on April 04, 2018, 05:53:16 PM

AI runs it for sure... So when we create AI in this reality, wtf does that mean? do we run simulations inside the simulation? My head hurts now... Huh

Woah, had to sit down for this one. Perhaps the simulation is designed like a game that evolves, because of the generations that are coming in as the others are exiting. It would have to follow a timeline that makes the users believe the environment they're in, making them keep records, evolve, discover, and create new tech. Eventually, the game would go through every possible scenario depending on where humanity takes it. So, potentially, we've destroyed the world several times over and the machine has to put our consciousness into single-celled organisms as a kind of "time out."

"Oh boy, the humans destroyed the planet again, reboot the system Siri and let's bring it back to creation."

Well shit, im glad SOMEONE gets what i'm saying... Everyone i talk to about it is open until i promptly blow their mind, then they go right to defending beliefs that cant be proven.. I cant prove this obviously, but i'm also not saying i believe it. I am just open to the possibility of it being the case. TBH though if you look at like the double slit or other experiments related to quantum physics it makes you wonder if there is some sort of AI controlling reality... unfortunately we don't understand the results well enough to determine if they are proof but i'm hoping we will eventually... basically, a particle is a wave. then you look at it and it immediately collapses and chooses the state it wants to present to you.... then you look away again and poof... its a wave. it can be anything and nothing at the same time, and it COULD be that there is an AI presence that every atom is connected with that is working to make this a believable reality because otherwise it wouldn't work...
Ok sit down again. listen to this: What if our reality got infected with some sort of virus that is causing it to go to shit... which is why the world is headed in the direction it seems to be headed in... If we live in a simulation, then a computer had to create this reality, all the matter, and so us. The "creator."
So what if the AI program that created us went rogue or was infected with a benevolent type of AI that wants to trap us here in reincarnation or keep us from learning our lessons by keeping us mindlessly entertained.
I do a lot of mindfulness meditation just to stay out of my head and ego and when i am present i can say this world is a whole hell of a lot more entertaining then we give it credit for when you step back and look at everyone mindlessly running from one thing to another, never stopping to take an extra breath let alone clear their head...
I dunno, maybe i need to start writing books or something, because this is the shit in my head ever since i studied quantum physics a little and decided (for myself) that there is something more to this world than meets the eye. Too much shit that doesn't make sense unless you're willing to just BELIEVE it with no basis or fact.