Quote from: lgwood01 on April 05, 2018, 07:05:49 PM

I was in the Verge/Discord room when OCMiner came in yesterday, that's where the initial conversation between him and VergeDEV went down, I saw it all live. Here's my take on the situation if anyone wants to listen to a BTCTalk newb:

Verge/Discord is better than Verge/TG, but not by a huge degree. People come in there all the time making wild accusations, trash talking the coin and DEV team, sometimes making threats etc.....it is sort of the wild west at times.

What I witnessed, was an un-established, newb Discord member, who's never been there and never been a member of the community come in and starts making all these accusations. VergeDEV did just happen to be online so he took a step back to dig in and see what was happening. In the meantime, OCMiner kept going on and on and on, being rude and somewhat demanding of VergeDEV and everyone else in there.....just like all the usual unknown trash talkers do when they come in the room. What's even more annoying is he never announced himself as the guy who runs any pools, and that he might have intimate knowledge of what happening, just started trash talking right away.....and VergeDEV even asked him if he ran a pool and wanted to talk in private.....to which he never answered. Then he continued being quite rude, making demands, until he got himself banned.

I, myself, didn't even take him seriously for about 15 minutes until I started looking at my own miner and the block explorers because he was being quite unprofessional and rude to VergeDEV and everyone in the group as well.....like all the other trash talkers that stop by.

Do I agree that this has been handled by the Verge team in the best way possible? No, but hindsight is 20/20. But the way OCMiner conducted himself in a public chat room yesterday morning could have been compared to me walking into the middle of the US Capitol building with a mask over my face so no one could see me, and not identifying myself, screaming "someone is printing extra money at the federal reserve and taking it home with them" then demanding that they fix it right away over and over again while proclaiming this was the end of everything for Verge, among many other insulting things. You can imagine how well that was received and how seriously he was taken at first.

There is a reason when exploits are found in software, no matter if they are actively being exploited or not, if you want to minimize damage to all parties involved, you keep things quiet at first and take things through officials channels to allow a fix to be implemented so that others don't take advantage of the exploit right away, not blast it all over the interwebs.

I work in internet/cyber security, and couldn't imagine the world if every time a security researcher who found an exploit in software or hardware immediately ran out and posted every detail about how it works before giving the software vendor/dev team a chance to patch the code? Well, I can, and I would rather dig ditches for a living than try to do my current job if that's the way everyone operated when it came to bugs or security flaws.

That's my 2cents

I thought ocminer used "ocminer" in the discord. He is a very well known person.

Also, this isnt any zeroday exploit that needs super secrecy anyway. It is a known exploit already done to other coins that cloned from the same upstream. It seems all attacks on those coins are attacks that could happen to XVG.

Does that need to be kept a secret? Did I just let random hackers on the internet know something they didnt already know?