Quote from: stompix on April 08, 2018, 02:26:21 PM

Quote from: so142001 on April 08, 2018, 10:07:13 AM

Resource based economy with profit removed from the equation.

I'd like to see this happen. Anyone know of anything in the works that might make this possible?

Utopian dreams that will never come true.
A bunch of communist and socialist ideas mixed together with some non-sense that would normally get you in a menthal institution.

Quote from: d57heinz on April 08, 2018, 11:12:45 AM

Quote from: so142001 on April 08, 2018, 10:07:13 AM

Resource based economy with profit removed from the equation.

I'd like to see this happen. Anyone know of anything in the works that might make this possible?

Checkout Jacques fresco work on the Venus Project. This man was a true visionary. He was way way ahead of his time. And with all the fraud and bs that comes with money soon this will be the answer. I hate that bitcoin was pegged to usd well before it was ready. Its basically ruined the concept altogether. Now I sit back and watch the shit show. Great to see more coming to the conclusion I had. Money is no fucking good for humans well being
Anyone else here want to learn something. I mean truly learn something. Read Jacques book the best that money cant buy! This will open your eyes Big time!

Yeah, probably one of the most delusional men in history.
He wanted to get as far away from communism as possible that the ended up hugging it.
Project Venus? The utopia where everybody will be happy because we will have everything we want ?

Get real.
For most that might be an utopia but for individuals that actually want to achieve something it's just a farm run by an entity where all the sheep are happy cause they get their bucket of water and hay at fixed hours.

I remember watching all the Zeitgeist movies 10 years ago and being fascinated by it all. I also learned about Jacques Fresco and The Venus Project, slowly I become more aware of game theory and other dynamics and realized how it would most likely not work.

There are still some interesting things to learn from there tho. They claim that "this time would be different" (as opposed to previous iterations of Communism) because of the technological progress. They also claim it's not Communism. Anyway, my point is, it is true that in 100 to 1000 years, most jobs will already be automated, so 99% of people will simply not be necessary. How does capitalism deal with it? I can only see 2 outcomes:

1) Capitalism overlords kill us all, and they control the machines
2) We rebel against Capitalism overlords and get some sort of minimum guaranteed income to cover basic needs

I don't see any other resolution.