Quote from: MagicSmoker on April 09, 2018, 10:36:25 AM

Quote from: CaptDero on April 08, 2018, 03:18:07 PM

Quote from: MagicSmoker on April 08, 2018, 02:14:37 PM

Wait, how would you know if there are ASICs present if they are on a private pool or solo mining?
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There is no bulletproof method to determine that exactly but as You look carefully in the network you will find natural growth. we monitor and correlate several parameters and most of the time you will find 80-90% of hashrate on public pools and remaining on private pools and most of the miners on slack/discord. when you see hashrate spikes/20-30 MHs you can see NH orders placed. Also you can see several NH order placers in slack/discord. But now there is no way you can stop NH. DERO hash growth has been proportional to numbers of members joined our slack/Discord/forum etc.
As of now we have around few hundred registered members on official DERO forum (https://forum.dero.io).
You are with us from beginning and have seen my stand against NH and also DERO diff algo is not profitable for NH users and believe me we have got lots of request(in various forms that can no longer be called requests) to change that algo. Asics will not have any major advantage on DERO if they wana come/go unless they wana stay for long. And then as said.

An increase in the network hashrate from 10MH/s to 20MH/s is equivalent to 13500 additional RX 570 GPUs coming online. If that happened over the course of several months I'd believe it was organic growth, but not in the span of a few days. Also, network hashrate has dropped back down to ~10MH/s even more quickly than it ran up, but not instantaneously as happens with NH, so the obvious conclusion to me is that a bunch of ASICs focused on DERO for a couple of days then moved on.

That said, I really think that waiting until ASICs nuke your network is the wrong approach anyway. Now that it has been proven that CryptoNight is not, indeed, ASIC resistant, all coins that use the CN algo should modify it every few months to ensure Bitmain and other bad actors can't pull the same sleazy stunt of developing an ASIC in secret, mining the shit out of it for a few months, then dumping it on the public for a price that all but ensures it will never be profitable.

Mind you, I have nothing against ASICs and would actually much prefer everyone used them rather than inefficient GPUs, but the world we live in right now makes it difficult for people/companies in countries where the rule of law is preeminent (the US, EU, etc.) to compete against companies in countries we can't touch legally and which have no compunction about stealing your IP or reverse engineering it then churning out copies made by slave laborer children (can you say, "Foxconn"? I thought ya could).

I also agree with all this!
I would only add one more thing... Now it is developer choice the way to go... Community or ASICs...