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I don't believe these studies at all, times have changed and the problem is always extremist people. Judging by religions is a mistake at this time. Or are we still living in caverns

You are believing the wrong studies. Time changes, but people don't. All you need to do to see this is look qt people of the past to see that they had heads, arms, hands, feet, legs, torsos, etc. just like we have.

People still live in caves in various parts of the world. If there were an abundance of caves right now in parts of California, people would be living there rather than in the tent cities.

All the skeletons and parts of skeletons of prehistoric man that we have, are so few in number that they could fit on one table. Their differences from modern mankind suggest genetic or other deformities in a few people or animals, rather than evolution. Evolution, including the timeline and formally accepted age of the earth, is a complete fable.

Time for you to start learning what is real, rather than what you want to believe.

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''dont know how many hominin fossils there are in the world. There is no tabulation. The pace of discovery now is too fast to track. Each year for the last decade, anthropologists have unearthed hundreds of fossil specimens from extinct hominin species and populations.

By 2012, the Sima de los Huesos hominin assemblage, near Burgos, Spain, numbered more than 6500 specimens from at least 28 individuals. Many more fossils are recovered in every field season. In South Africa, the Rising Star hominin sample today numbers more than 2000 specimens from at least 18 individuals. This deposit of hominin fossils was completely unknown until 2013. From just two caves, that is nearly 9000 fossil hominin specimens.''

https://medium.com/@johnhawks/how-much-evidence-have-scientists-found-for-human-evolution-355801dfd35c

https://anthropologynet.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fossil-hominid-skulls.jpg

You can clearly see all the differences.

You can clearly see the differences:

http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/477698726-yellow-cab-work-trip-traffic-light-sidewalk.jpg

https://d2v9y0dukr6mq2.cloudfront.net/video/thumbnail/NW0fQmiOgijpqxr6o/nyc-crowd-street-people-new-york-city-late-1940s-1950s-vintage-film-movie-3549_bumdbgtl__F0000.png

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/gettyimages-907601562.jpg

Your B.S. tables are simply a science fiction story. They are a religion that distracts from reality. They are destroying the health of people simply by getting people to believe in falsehood.

Health and religion.

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You can go to museums and check the fossils for yourself unless you are saying all of them are fabricated.

You can't seem to get it through your head that it isn't the existence of fossils that is the point. The point is the interpretation of where they came from and why they exist. The story about the fossils is the fiction, not the fossils themselves.

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So what do you think the interpretation is lol, it's quite clear to me. We know they are human fossils and we have found many of them, we can also date them.

We know that some are human fossils. We also know that they some of them could be animal fossils... and, indeed, some have proven to be animal in the past. We know that they could be diseased, mutated malformations of modern man. We know our dating system is very contradictory, and is a accepted as it is by arbitrary decision rather than absolute knowledge that it is even close to accurate. Some people simply choose to believe these things for the sake of choice.

The point is, we have a complete science fiction story about the age of the earth and evolution. When it is believed to be truth, it becomes religion.

The age-old Bible religion - and even Islam - have way better truth than science does with the prehistoric man fictional ideas.

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''The point is, we have a complete science fiction story about the age of the earth'' How ironic coming from someone who believes in the bible, science fiction heh.

Science is the new religion on the block. It's has only been around in any strength for about 500 years. Its failures are enormous in how the theories have changed over time. But to make it a strong religion, scientist priests have made failure of theories to be a good thing. They call it the process of discovering new truths. There aren't any new truths. Everything that exists now has always existed in the past in one form or another.

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This is an excellent point, many who believe in nothing forget they still believe something, as "the model of nothingness" or "the model of science". You can replace model with religion as it is founded on beliefs.

In that world a teacher or scientist is the priest. Most people take the "accepted reality" or "model of the world" for granted because they belief a priest. Almost none wants the proof, as the priests have performed a magic ritual on an Altar and got direct insights from the gods. Well, except they were in a research facility, not in a church.

The difference is that the experiments performed can be performed again, you can do them yourself if you learn enough about the specific thing the experiment was made for, you can also observe and evaluate the evidence for yourself something that you cannot do as a religious person, the church or bible doesn't offer you any evidence or experiments at all so please, stop it.

How in the world... Never mind.

You can run the numbers for the big bang, and they always come up the same. But there aren't any big bang experiments that can be attached to the supposed real BB with any certainty or accuracy.

Same with black hole theory. Nobody knows if any experiments to create a black hole actually create the outer-space anomaly that we call a black hole, even though the math remains the same.

Same with E=mc². There are scientific operations and math that refute it in the form that it is in as a theory. And we haven't proven it out completely in experimentation.

Same with gravity theory. It doesn't match gravity entirely, and there are parts of it the theory that we don't have a clue about, really.

Now take religion. Take the 10 Commandments, for example. Everybody knows that you are going to have trouble in your life if you murder someone. All you have to do is ask all the people in prison for murder.

And what about dishonoring your parents? Haven't you ever heard of anybody being taken out of the will because he dishonored a parent at the wrong time?

And look at all the people who covet something, and get in trouble because their covetousness of something leads them into a position where they try to swindle it into their own possession.

And that brings up stealing. Look at how many people are in prison or have a troubled life because they were stealing. Consider simple shoplifting stealing and all the trouble it gets kids into.

So, now that you have see a few things of religion that are plain and simple and blatantly out in the open, why won't you believe that the rest of the breaking of the commandments is just as dangerous or more so?... not honoring God above all things, using His name in vain, and not spending time meditating on His word?

Why no experiments in the Bible or the church? Because they both have the answers. There is nothing to experiment about. Some people, however, test out what the Bible says, and it is their experiment when they go against God's Word.

You entirely have things backward as usual.

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And yet there is no math to show god exists, is it? Yeah, everybody knows that working on the sabbath means death, am I right? ''For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.''

''Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation; and they put him in custody because it had not been declared what should be done to him. Then the Lord said to Moses, The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp. So all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses''

You shall not make idols, ok, god? You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. Damn, can I do anything in this religion without getting killed? These are the values the bible teaches. They claim to have answers but they have no evidence and you chose to believe them blindly because you can't use your own brain.

Math is a language of man. Man is induced to do every math thing (and everything else) that he does, through cause and effect. God is the director of C&E. All math shows that God exists.

The answers are right where I told you in my post you quoted. But you have to think a little, to understand. Not just blab.

Take murder, for example. Does a murderer get grief in his life? Yes! Does he get the grief even if he never heard of the commandment to not murder? Yes! How much plainer can you get? Religion is full of life examples that are realities. Science theory might have a lot of evidence this way or that, but it is not known to be factual at all, because it can be upgraded. Murder isn't ever upgraded into something that everybody accepts.

When are you going to learn how to think? You use language that suggests that you can think. Do you look like someone who is smart enough to think? When are you going to be able to think? Or are you close to pure troll?

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And yet the bible also says ''For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.'' Quite a contradictory book, it says to not kill but then it says to kill, heh.

Not contradictory at all. You simply fail to take the time to see what is really going on. The word "kill" is an old translation from the Hebrew. The translation should really be "murder." And, it is relation to the individual. "Put to death" is execution by Government. Big difference.

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