Quote from: timmmers on October 31, 2013, 11:19:02 AM

Quote from: Mota on October 31, 2013, 09:35:24 AM

Quote from: timmmers on October 31, 2013, 09:26:51 AM

Quote from: DigginDeep on October 31, 2013, 07:20:34 AM

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

I beg to differ. 1 Jupiter costs about 135 in power per month. That is at present pretty much 1 btc. If next gen miners can lessen that by 30% that would mean a LOT more money in the long run. Of course, if you are in a country where you don't have to pay more than 13 cents per kwh you obviously don't have to fret over power consumption...

A jupiter would cover that 135 in 2 days sitting instead of waiting to be shipped at KNC. A next gen rig would need to be at least the same value as a jupiter right now to be even considered. Power is the last thing that needs to be improved, and any improvements will be pitiful anyway. IF the people who only just got their jupiters had been offered the choice of one on the 15th as promised but 1kw ...or what they got...14 days of no mining and a diff increase...which would they take? 2 weeks mining at 500GH or save 70 euros? Which is more important?

1BTC is a lot more than 135 Euro right now too.

Hey, don't preach to the choir. My UPS delivery from KNC directly is missing... so, 2 weeks late vs now 4 weeks with me.... I am lucky that my first units got here on the 16th late afternoon, also UPS, delivered to my neighbours babysitter (while I was at home...). But that was not the unit from KNC directly but from a forumbuy. So yeah, delay sucks, but when you get your units what is more important is power consumption.