Quote from: belphegory on April 12, 2018, 04:05:57 AM

Your logic is severely flawed Badecker......

I found a better website that explains your fallacy....

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_first_cause

And since you touching on intelligent design fallacy in your arguments as well...
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

Your C&E argument is thus null and void.

Cause and effect is the accepted operation in all, 100%, of scientific investigation. It is also the only way that we see that all things that exist, exist the way that they do.

Some people might have some ideas or hypotheses or theories that things might exist because of something other than cause and effect, but they arrived at these ideas or hypotheses or theories through the use of cause and effect. There is nothing other than C&E, factually known, for the way things exist. In addition, there are countless numbers of actions that are known to exist by C&E... factually known, not known in idea or hypothesis or theory form.

Your interpretations of the links you provide is completely lacking. And the links, themselves, are simply a bunch of talk around the subject, without providing anything different to the conclusion that C&E exists in everything.

Cool