Quote from: Steamtyme on April 12, 2018, 07:39:24 PM

While stumbling down the rabbit hole a little I found this project https://tse.bitnation.co

Looks like they want to create an entire governing nation without borders. Seems like an interesting future planning project; it reminds me of the off grid commune/commmunities people founded in the late 60s/70s.

This is the initial article that I read where they discuss their UBI.

http://basicincome.org/news/2017/03/bitnation-recent-advances-cryptocurrency-see-basic-income-tested/

Thanks! I hadn't found that one yet and it does seem to fit the criteria to be added on this list. Most of the suggestions by other people don't really qualify as basic income, but this one definitely does.

Quote from: Steamtyme on April 12, 2018, 07:39:24 PM

Quote from: Ganthet on April 12, 2018, 05:00:37 PM

In this respect, however, although an equal distribution of wealth is ideal, it still undermines the role of money as an incentive that pushes people to work harder, thus getting more income. Perhaps in a utopian society where the population is infused with the notion of hard work as a measure to maximize human potential and a sense of place in civilization which justifies this effort towards growth, such an implementation would work.

But given a society that is built on capitalist foundations and a craving for stratification, it is better off leaving mankind for to its own interests - a personal pursuit for meaning and purpose fueled by individual definitions of money.

And just to put it out there, an equal society tends to be a boring one. Suppose I'd have mustered enough cash to go on a vacation to a luxurious resort: once I arrive, it's empty. No one at the reception waiting for guests, no janitors keeping the establishment clean and no lifeguards securing the swimming area. Why? They've all saved enough money to go out at the same exact day that I did, earning and saving the same amount a year too. In the world today, this seems to be unreal, but in a society built on equal pay, a tale like this could be a narrative of daily life - a repetitive cycle of working and saving - towards what will always be a dead end job.

Just my two cents

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I understand where you are coming from, all a UBI is supposed to do is really ensure that regardless of the career path you chose you shouldn't have to chose between eating/hydro/or a roof over your head.

These situations are rampant through all industrialized nations. Many people put in 40 hours + and still can't afford a basic quality of life. Another added benefit to a UBI that has been lost in the last few decades is that it can become easier for a parent to chose to stay home and raise children until they are school aged. This issue in itself has many added benefits to the family unit and specifically the children.

Thanks again OP for creating an interesting topic to discuss

You've explained it perfectly! Basic Income isn't going to be a total replacement of a wage, more like an addition so everyone gets their basic needs met.

**Updated the OP, added Bitnation