Quote from: magneto on April 12, 2018, 08:44:00 PM

Quote from: thecodebear on April 12, 2018, 07:53:32 PM

Quote from: pitiflin on April 08, 2018, 10:40:26 PM

Yeah only thing is staying positive won't give them their money back. You see, a lot of people went to different sources and got the money to invest in Bitcoin but now that the markets are in a bull period, they can't keep up with the other end of bargain when they borrowed the money. We are seeing suicides, murders and what not for money. This stupidity is worse than their earlier stupidity of buying bitcoin at a higher price.

Well thats just stupid. I took out a big loan to buy a bunch of bitcoin in late october just before the price went nuts. It was a fantastic investment. But I didn't take out more than I could afford to pay off. If anyone really did take out loans that were so big that they can't afford to pay the monthly payments without selling their investment thats just stupid no matter the market.

The key is staying positive on the long term outlook. My brother sold half his bitcoin a month or two ago because he said he didn't wanna stress over it. I told him that was very stupid. He only had a bit over 1 bitcoin anyways, so even if he lost all the money its not like he'll miss it in the long run, but if he had stayed positive he might be sitting on well over $100k in a few years. Just gotta keep a positive long term outlook. Sure it sucks getting trades stuck for a few months or watching your portfolio go down for a few months. But if you wait long enough 99% change you'll be making lots of money again in the relatively near future.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling your investment, especially in a bubble situation.

But if you are selling because your emotions in a falling market(and everyone experiences that, by the way) are telling you that you should just get out of bitcoin for good, then that's where the mistake is made. What will usually happen is that you'll sell at a low level, like your brother, and then have the fear of missing out when bitcoin takes off again in a bull market, so you're actually losing money that way.

It's not about staying positive all the time even if bitcoin's in a huge bubble, but it's believing in the long term of your investment in BTC. After all, you invested because you think that BTC prices can really go up over the long run and if you sell now, you're missing that opportunity entirely.

Bold part - exactly.

My other brother bought at ~$2700, sold half of that for I guess $3xxx during the crash from $5000 to $3000. I told him he was crazy and he absolutely should not have done that. And of course if he waited just a few months he could have sold at $10k or $15k of $19k. He put in so little money relative to what they have (he just put in $2500 to buy .89 BTC) that the risk of losing that a couple thousand dollars when you have a good career is really not a risk at all, but the upside if you hold is maybe you sell in a few years and could possibly make $50k or $100k or more (or he could have sold late last year and made over $10k even after taxes for a tiny 6 month investment). So why did he sell half his BTC, worried that he was going to lose all of a few hundred dollars, and took the out of gaining a few hundred dollars, pure emotion of "oh my god my investment is dropping i better sell!"

First rule of bitcoin: never listen to your emotions.

And of course I've violated that rule plenty of times, especially during my first bitcoin stint back in 2013/2014, and it pretty much always results in losing money or losing bitcoin.