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No any normal person would not be there mine, until they pay the debts of

So you would say, liquidate and not let them trade out (in business terms)? More an American type of logic... where as if they do have financial issues and they can trade out and everyone gets their btc... is that not a better option than them shutting down and all the users losing out, because some people just don't care?

Please do not be offended, I am not suggesting you are American, just it is that type of mentality that I see from them, an observation if you will...

I am not American. Grin

Unfortunately, my guess are that the pool will not be back to normal as long as they do not pay honestly earned coins. I do not want others Bitcoins - I want to get my back.
and more. Pool speed drops and drops - people do not believe what they write.
sorry for my english

OK, lets do a little business 101 here... (and some common sense)

If there was a theft of coins which appears likely, how would you suggest they pay them back to people who earned them (the members who effectively had their coins stolen by a third party that were held at 50btc)?
How do you think they make an income? with the percentages (in the form of commission) as you would figure out with basic understandings of most mining pool business models...

So if you keep the above in mind... how would you expect them to cover the outstanding balances with zero income? Unless you *ASSUME* they have other funds hidden somewhere.

You could see this as a company seeking bankruptcy protection whilst attempting to trade out of the bad situation so everyone would get paid eventually.

Finally here is how I can see it working, if they are honest (do we have any proof of any dishonesty? what happened last time there was an issue like this?) then they would need some form of income for new %s (as a commission) off the top of the hashed/mined coins from here on in, as you can not pay people with money you do not have unless you steal from someone else, which would be rather unethical to me and I would not trust a thief (remember they are claiming theft from them via one means or another, ie they claim to be a victim here also), I do not suspect that their motive is to steal (from past history and) as they are still functional (to a degree) and have not said (like abcpool.co - I know different story but I lost coins there too) that they would close up. To me it looks like they have intentions to trade through this, time will tell and you would be right to think it is a gamble to push hashes their way but in the same breath it may be the only way people will get paid out and for them to grow again. I also hope that if/when the get through this storm they show appreciation to those who stood by them and had faith in their commitment.

Did you create this account specifically to be an Ass Hat? They need to pay their customers what is due. Not you Unicorns and Rainbow theory. This is a business, not a charity....

If you are referring to me, please be constructive with your criticism else you are just showing how immature you are. I am merely trying to show the other side of business which people seem to forget.

If the business is a going concern (some people may not understand that term) then why would you want to shut it down? Because you can not withdraw your coins that were defrauded/stolen from 50btc... Huh

People here assume the pools have a huge amass of funds they can just dispense and that those funds were not affected or used in running the operation, or maybe even invested in assets such as stock for selling in their shop? OMG you are showing you may be a full member but by inferring someone is an ass hat you are also showing you are an ass clown.

So you've proven you are both an Ass Hat and an Ass Clown. Everybody is wrong but you. Well you have fun with your delusional ego and askew sense of business. Maybe you should go back to the Newbies section, you can act like a God in there.

Ok, lets break this down....

You claim I am an ass hat and an ass clown? (I said you are 'showing you are an ass clown', I am sorry I should have re-worded that you are acting like.... I apologize for the personal nature of the phrase).
You claim I believe everyone is wrong but me? Where did I state or even imply this?
You claim I have a delusional ego and an askew sense of business?
You imply I have a god complex by suggesting I go to the newbies section "you can act like a God in there." there appears to be a lot of hatred.

As a member here is it right to start attacking someone so ferociously? The only reason I can see is that you disagree with me, which should not warrant such a rant, or is it just me you dislike personally?

Also if you are to make personal opinions on business sense against another person's opinion maybe it would be taken more seriously if you were to back it up with some form of experience or evidence, just a suggestion.

Now please play nicely here.

GFY