Quote from: myrkul on July 07, 2011, 06:22:18 PM

This is Market forces reacting to a global increase in temperature

At a loss, due to an increase in temperature directly caused by other market participants. Normally that would be considered a crime. At the very least it's an economic catastrophe and nothing to applaud.

Quote from: myrkul on July 07, 2011, 11:25:18 PM

"Market forces" refers to everybody, current generation included.

Unfortunately, no. Current generations will only bear a miniscule cost of the environmental destruction they have caused, while simultaneously consuming the most easily-exploited energy sources necessary to mitigate them. Emitted CO2 remains in the atmosphere and in the oceans for a hundred years. In the atmosphere, it increases heat retention and causes global warming. Those are basic physical facts. It is easy to induce, from them, that the bulk of the warming is yet to occur, and always will be until long after fossil carbon combustion peaks.

Quote from: myrkul

And what happens if the owners of the coal plants or those you would like to charge the carbon tariffs to say 'No'?

Those who are actively harming others don't just get to say "no" when they are asked to stop. They can be forced. Borders can be policed. Tariffs can be enforced. Polluters can be shut down.

Quote from: blogospheroid

My main point is that coordinating the actions of 7 billion people with an institution that won't get corrupt is a very difficult task.

And your point is a non-sequitur since all it takes is a small handful of people to make large scale fossil fuel combustion uneconomical. So the options are simple: play nicely and pay a tax to subsidize non-polluting alternatives, or say goodbye to profits.

Quote from: GideonGono

I highly doubt it. And am sure he will not acknowledge that govt is the main driver of CO2 emissions because of it's subsidizing fossil fuels and inefficient transport. Or that the single biggest polluting entity in the world is the US Military.

Another non-sequitur. I'm not here to defend the US government or the US military.