Quote from: seanrarey on November 04, 2013, 10:01:36 PM

Quote from: xyzzy099 on November 04, 2013, 09:55:16 PM

Quote from: seanrarey on November 04, 2013, 09:28:53 PM

I am not sure why you call it "self sacrifice". I make the same amount of money mining as anybody else; more, actually, because I don't pay pool fees. Why is asking people to "mine smart" self sacrifice?

It is actually self serving. I have benefited greatly from the experiment we call Bitcoin, and I want it to be around for a long time so I can benefit much more.

Hardly "self sacrifice".

Wink

You are urging people to leave pools that they have freely chosen, for whatever reason, as best suited for their own purposes. That is a request for self-sacrifice.

The real problem though, is that you refuse to understand that a herd of sheep choosing to be 'good' and 'do the right thing' will typically end up devoured by wolves unfettered by such considerations.

I don't contend that you shouldn't do what you think is right... I just hope you will learn not to expect it to necessarily save you (or bitcoin) from the big bad wolf.

Wouldn't it be better for us to seek out a more robust solution that doesn't require you, or those others less intelligent or less righteous than you that you would lead, to do the 'right thing', or even recognize what that is?

Let me get this right. Your position is that I am wrong to ask people not to be unthinking sheep? Wrong to ask people to educate themselves for the betterment of their hobby/business?

Seems an odd position to take, unless your point is to be argumentative?

No, I am just pointing out that you are not helping the problem, and you are annoying the sheep.

The right solution is to make the bitcoin protocol more robust to protect against this attack, so individual behavioral choices of miners is not relevant - and I see on the bitcoin-dev mailing lists that this is well underway.

If you want to lead a flock, feel free - but I for one would appreciate it if you would find another pulpit, so I don't have to read your sanctimonius and ultimately unhelpful sermons.