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Quote from: keysersozeTx on November 05, 2013, 06:24:56 AM

So you ordered pre-order hardware from a company with shitty history, non existent customer service and owners that are convicted felons and you are surprised you get scammed?

You're talking after the fact. It's obvious NOW.

Then you aren't trying to put the burden on the victims of the scam, right? The criminals are the ones 100% to blame, all the time.

And it was obvious to everyone who used there brains from December 2012, latest Feb 2013 for the slow people, that bfl and josh were scamming cockroaches. Which i say, and will stick to that If you ordered after this date, you need to start doing your research before you jump the gun and act like a fool! Its nothing personal, its just the truth.

People are falable, always but you can do something about it, like thinkingngor yourself instead of being a sheep!

I didn't order anything.

The fact that people are naive does not justify scams. Then they do not have to do research on scams, that's the job of the police, regulators, etc...

Furthermore, the rhetoric of blaming the victim is getting old, to say the least. People should be ashamed of insisting on this crap, libertarian or not, wild-wild West or not ...

Your statement suggests that I was saying scams are fine because people are stupid. The only stupid person is you thinking that anything of that sort. I have given my condolences to people in the past but that doesn't change the facts here. If you ordered after march, you really need to work on your research techniques and use some of those brain cells. People want to be spoke to nice all the time but that's what leads us into the world we have today! Security over freedom and getting sweet fa for it.... We were warned about this! Critical thinking/critical advice is paramount to being better at what you do. When people put people on pedestals (think education system, actors/artists, CEO etc etc) these people believe all the hype that comes with been 'given& such status. Life is fluid and expansive and we have so much to learn still, open your mind, take advice, weather good or bad on the chin and learn from it. Stop being persumtuious and experience life and what it can offer!

In conclusion, criticism, mild to harsh is essential for learning and progression! Simples

Oh yes, josh is one of the scummiest people ever to grace this planet. He is the lowest of low life cockroaches! He personally as a mind that gives no thought of anything but himself! Bring back the guillitene..... Oh yes, department of homeland security just brought 50,000 didn't they.... For the FEMA camps! Scum like josh will probably dodge it and it will be the good people that suffer, as history as shown time and time again

Do you have trouble understanding stuff or do you tend to rush to conclusions?

No, I'm not saying you mean that "scamming is ok because people are stupid". What you and the other poster are implying is that people are to blame for being scammed by a company. Am I wrong? No, I don't think so.

I'm not even going to try to counter-argue the rest of your U.S. centric tirade. Just to say that consumer protection rules work differently elsewhere...

Nonits not, governments over step everywhere in the world and there all the same, they govern the people instead of people governing them... That's the same no matter where you go which leads to this bullshit world of make believe we live in!

Fact is, everyone's stupid as were all human and no one is special! No one! When people realise this maybe we might just get along! Haha... Yes right, beggining of the end is now