Quote from: fergalish on February 15, 2010, 01:20:35 PM

Thanks for the links, I'm reading some of them. But, let me just say what I'm thinking. First of all, this thread is considering reasonably improbable long-term outcomes to this bitcoin experiment. I say reasonably improbable because there will be powerful governments that will do their utmost to prevent changes to the economic status quo. Just look at Iraq (http://www.rense.com/general34/realre.htm). So I'm gonna put myself in the shoes of big brother, and here's what I'd do.

You use "I" the pronoun for a single individual to refer "the government" a noun that represents representatives from 50 different states, numerous interacting, and sometimes competing, regulatory agencies and independent bodies. I know some people believe that the entire government moves with a single will, controlled by a single individual or a shadowy cabal, but I have not seen convincing evidence for this. Instead I see the tyrannies and injustices of governments as natural products of our current democratic system and way of living. I also believe many tyrannies and injustices do not spawn from malicious intent and that the people who support or implement them are merely misguided, not evil. This is why I beleive the internet will not be shut down by the government, even if it means they have to start begging for money instead of taking it by force (the government can be very good at begging).

It is this belief that tyranny is a natural product of certain "sociological algorithms" that leads me to support bitcoin and other, what i guess could be called "agorist" solutions. Solutions that don't try to fight the system or even change it (these rarely work out), but instead, try to change a few of the inputs to the "sociological algorithm" and thus, change the output.

Quote from: fergalish on February 15, 2010, 01:20:35 PM

What I mean is, libertarianism works fine as long as *everyone* is a libertarian. A minority of authoritarians will destroy it. On the contrary, authoritarianism works fine, it can even be *ruled* by a minority.

Quote from: The Machinery of Freedom

Anyone with a little imagination can dream up a radical new structure for society, anarcho-capitalist or otherwise. The question is, will it work? Most people, when they hear my description of anarcho-capitalism for the first time, immediately explain to me two or three reasons why it won't. Most of their arguments can be reduced to two: The system will be at the mercy of the mafia, which can establish its own 'protection agency' or take over existing ones and convert them into protection rackets. Or else the protection agencies will realize that theft is more profitable than business, get together, and become a government. Read the rest...