Quote from: cleartime on November 05, 2013, 06:40:43 PM

Quote from: paranoidx on November 05, 2013, 05:38:11 PM

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Quote from: cedivad on November 05, 2013, 03:19:25 PM

The annuncment should come for the iceminer asset, so there should at least be an announcement. It will be vague and useless, yes. Then they will "carry on" until december, when they will ship from the 25th to the 31th.

And if they file for bankruptcy we will have the first open source 28nm asic design ever.

Seriously unless you know something we dont, you should take a chill pill.

HF announced a delay, the cause for the delay, a solution for the problem and a new rough ETA thats still a week from here. Whats this panic about?
If you never anticipated these things could be delayed by at least a few weeks, why did you even order? I can understand BFL customers getting upset about waiting over a year and hearing new excuses and delays every other week, but thusfar, this seems a total non issue.

Be honest: are you upset because we are now 5 (!) days beyond their initial shipping window, or because difficulty is 2x higher and growing much faster than you expected when you placed your order?

I believe he is upset because:
1. we are now 5 days beyond the shipping window
2. the difficulty is 2x and growing much faster
3. there is no proof that the devices will be completed any time soon. No pictures of pcb boards, no announcement of the chips (knc took 2 weeks after getting chips to start shipping)
4. No refunds
5. No communication from Hashfast. (everything is under NDA apparently)

Well, my order is Batch 2, so that will be delivered on March 2014, I just noticed the fact, really shocked me.
That mean I throw money to water without any sound.
So we will need a layer before they announce anything we do not want to hear?

yes, unfortunately any ROI is going to be minimal (depending on BTC prices. Of course). BFL should be shipping about that time (we'll see). That happens far too often with preorders