Quote from: yamancool63 on November 06, 2013, 04:29:47 PM

Quote from: rtt on November 06, 2013, 04:09:35 PM

Quote from: TomKeddie on November 06, 2013, 05:55:08 AM

Quote from: Stringchains on November 06, 2013, 05:09:43 AM

Quote from: professorY on November 04, 2013, 03:55:45 PM

We paid in BTC, not dollars. So we should actually get more back than we paid, in theory.

I would have to agree. In my opinion, because bitcoin in itself has interest, as it constantly rises, our assembly refunds rightfully must be returned to us in the form of which we payed, in bitcoins (in denomination of cost based on the time history for which we payed for them when they were worth $80-$120 ea. per BTC).

Because for a ridiculous example, I payed $560 for Assembly in bitcoins, of which at the time they were worth ~$112 ea., be it that I sent ~5BTC for assembly, if by happenstance in the future a bitcoin increased to an extreme value (which it possibly may) such as $5,000+, that is $25,000 that I could have simply sat on--significantly more than being returned $560 assembly refund based on USD such as, I would get only .112BTC back in this extreme example, when initially it was 5 BTC i sent over (44 times that!)

Prices were quoted in usd. If btc had gone down in value you would be complaining and wanting your refunds in usd. The constructive, useful, interesting posts in this thread and only just enough to keep people here. I'm desperate for the refunds to be paid out so the whining will stop.

This is bullshit!
I demanded my full refunds months ago, when the price of Bitcoin was nearly a third of what is it today.
So either pay up in BTC or using those rates.

Look, it's not bullshit. Steamboat said that Assembly prices were $USD, payable in bitcoin. You paid a USD amount in bitcoin and asking for an equal number of bitcoin (much greater $USD value, which SB paid for components/assembly/shipping costs-these are all paid in USD) is unfair to Steamboat. You knew the risks; Steamboat is human, just like all of us, and doing his best. Patience is a virtue (I'm looking at you cardcomm) and this will be sorted out eventually. I'm not pleased with how things turned out either, but it's an unfortunate reality and we were all informed and took the risks involved.

yamancool63 - Are you now? How special for me. As I've stated before, I'm only being impatient because of the embarrassingly long time that elapses betweens each of Steamboats "updates", and the fact that so many unanswered questions remain after each one. If he'd been keeping us in the loop in a friendly manner like he did at first, I'd be patient as hell.

Instead, he started doing "business updates" with long delays between. I don't take well that, and I believe I have the right to say so. I'll shut up once I get my assembly refund.

TomKeddie - Sorry for cluttering up "your" thread with group buy business. I, too can't wait for my refund so I can abandon this thread forever. Meanwhile, perhaps the technical discussion fit better in the original Klondike development thread. Or you could just start you're own thread and keep it all pristine.

I'll continue to voice my opinion here as politely as I can manage. If my comments have insulted anyone's delicate sensibilities, I invite you to use the ignore feature.