Quote from: itod on November 08, 2013, 11:24:20 AM

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Quote from: itod on November 08, 2013, 11:00:22 AM

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Quote from: perezoso on November 08, 2013, 06:19:57 AM

To survive, if the whole model of the citizen-miner survives, these companies are going to have to do things differently and develop non-hateful relationships with their customers. KnC seems to be leading the way. HF is working to follow. At least that's my bet.

The road to customer goodwill for Hashfast seems pretty clear to me:

1) Offer full refunds to batch 1 customers.
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They may as well do that and many on this thread would be surprised with the results. Accepting the refund means you are giving up additional 2TH for free on Feb 1st. Good luck buying those 2TH with refunded BTC for less, considering end of Jan/beginning of Feb delivery. Maybe the refund is safer way, but I bet many people would not accept refunds. They bought miners in the first place because they don't want BTC sitting in their wallets. Announcing MPP starts Oct 30th changed many things.

You are giving up 1.6TH for Free, it's 4x 400GH Modules

Baby Jets were ~50 BTC when they went up for sale I believe (Can't remember for sure)

That 50 BTC is now $15750 - $315 Exchange price on Coinbase

You could literally buy 3x KnC 500-550 November Jupiters for that and have ~1.5TH in November and you don't think that end of Jan/Beginning of Feb Delivery will get you much much more at that time?

Wrong, KnC November is sold out and there probably will not be new batch since they never announced anything but going to new technology. You can try Cointerra but that's uncertain also.

Regarding 1.6 or 2TH hashrate of 4 modules it's yet to be seen. Would be very surprised if they can't be overclocked like 500-550 Jupiters you've mentioned. They were 400 nominal also.

They literally sold out this morning

What world are you living in that you believe KnC won't have a new batch?

The Jupiters are not overclocked LOL (they are using normal heatsinks)

They are 500 Nominal (Most should be above this slightly) (Even though they advertise 550GH on their product page)

I don't personally care if you order from KnC, Bitfury, BFL, or anyone that point is that you are spreading much misinformation and that 1.6, 2, even 3TH by End of January will be cheaper than the baby jet was in terms of BTC more then likely.

Hell ASICMiner is selling a "30GH - 38GH "Overclocked" for 1.99BTC - http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01 - Ships Approximately November 14th

For the 50BTC you spent, you could be getting 750GH - 950GH in November already!

Somehow I still think you will miss the point.