Quote from: Rano on July 11, 2018, 07:11:07 PM

Yeeaaahhh as I have predicted a month ago or so, here is the next excuse since the beta already has been launched and still no listing.

"Minchin |savedroid:
Given the challenging crypto market environment since beginning of May 2018, we are currently reviewing our listing strategy and date. Please bear with us as we are working towards the best outcome for the whole savedroid community."

The list of excuses becomes pretty long now. This is the Top5-story until now:

1. Top5-Announcement in March and during the ICO as "secured"

2. Problems with KYC

3. PR-Stunt and a lot of trouble as result - maybe/probably such a damage of reputation that exchanges reject them

4. Still problems with KYC and distribution

5. Savedroid claims, the Top5 is about to readjust the listing-requirements, therefore it will need a bit more time. But: The Top5 exchange still wants to list Savedroid and even for free!

6. Community-voting if to wait for the Top5 (4-6 weeks) or not. Result: A majority wants to wait. Another result is: Zero transparency and they admit that they've contacted Pre-Sale-Investors to vote after the voting was officially closed.

7. Additional argument: Bigger Investors want to wait for the Beta-Release

8. Beta is released but obviously the Top5 still didn't get their listing-requirements finished

9. Now, said during the last AMA: Actually they wouldn't want to wait for the Top5 anymore, so the voting result is also not important anymore. But especially big Investors (again) are concerned about the bear market. Funny is: The bear market is going on since January... but now it replaces all other "reasons" and made it on #1 on the excuse-list.

What is a known pattern: They often refer to big ticket buyers whenever they come up with excuses.

- Big Investors liked the PR-Stunt
- Big Investors want to wait for the top5
- Big Investors want to wait for the Beta
- Big Investors want to wait because of the market conditions

And what's kind of funny: They like to put it that way as if the big guys would be the smart ones. Small buyers "scream" and are loud... the bigger ones are the thinkers, calm and nice and strategic masterpieces. The big issue here is: How smart can it be to put much money into a hype-project like this?

What I said/asked shortly after the PR-Stunt was this:

Quote from: tempus on April 24, 2018, 09:28:15 AM

Still all exchanges on board that agreed to list you? If you think through this out of their perspective and after your PR-Stunt: It wouldn't be that surprising if they are unsure if they want to be associated with such a move. (...)

In my opinion there are mainly two options with some probability:

1) There never was an agreement with a top5 exchange but they've just used the announcement to hype their ICO.
2) There was an agreement but the top5 rejected them after the PR-Stunt

What I find interesting is that they didn't just say they would have such an agreement but that they wouldn't have to pay anything for it - while later they constantly complained about high listing prices.

And what I didn't believe for a moment is the given argument that the top 5 exchange delayed the listing because of readjustments of their listing requirements.