Quote from: texaslabrat on November 11, 2013, 08:23:19 AM

Quote from: Biffa on November 11, 2013, 08:19:42 AM

Quote from: texaslabrat on November 11, 2013, 08:10:45 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on November 11, 2013, 08:04:24 AM

Umm, that's cool, but I can assure you not that's clearly not he case on all units. I have pictures of the one I took to Atlanta using a Kill-A-Watt, and there were enough witnesses that were present, including members of this forum (Bargraphics, Phin Gage), and representatives from competing companies that saw this for their own eyes. Also there's plenty in this thread amongst the first recipients to verify otherwise.

And I'd be willing to bet a few satoshi's that the unit you took to Atlanta did not have the same firmware as those units that were subsequently shipped out to Day 1 customers onwards...and that the voltage was tweaked upwards in the interim thus increasing the power requirements (in the name of increasing performance/stability, I'm sure). Couple the fact that the actual physical design of the product was changed quite substantially (8 VRMs to 4 VRMs) and it's not exactly apples-to-apples

So basically all you can say is that a few machines that you know of pulled high watts, you don't know how many right?

I'd guess that, relative to the entire Day1/Day2/October production run its probably just a few isolated units caused by manufacturing and/or production tolerances.

I don't know for sure, thats why I am saying "I guess" but at least I'm not making out like it was a huge problem for everyone. Plus it was like Day 1 units, almost prototypes in a way, cutting-edge-get-it-before-anyone type stuff.

Surely the discussion is about now, people coming into the thread recently to find out what they need for the next batch.

I'm saying that all of the Day1/Day2 machines that were delivered with pre-.95 firmware pulled very high wattage..and in some cases that translated to hardware failures when coupled with PSU's like the Corsair HX850 that contributed to exploding capacitors. Actually testing specific PSU's and making specific recommendations based on known-working models would have been better instead of leaving it to chance for customers to figure it out on their own. I, myself, bought the same model as KnC's hosting but gave myself some extra margin with higher wattage rating so my machine was never running over-spec of the PSU at any time on any firmware (the VRMs themselves, well, that's another story).

I don't know how you think you can say that ALL of them had the same issue, especially with the variation in ability of the devices. e.g. My Jupiter is happiest running 0.96 with any variation of cgminer however its not happy running any firmware above that. I don't know why, I think its to do with it not liking what the newer firmware does to the voltage to try and stabilize machines with flakey cores.

But I firmly believe that my machine is probably in the minority, just as I believe that the ones you are talking about are a drop in the ocean compared to the number of non-problematic machines they have shifted that we just never hear about.