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Man, if only I ~~believed in the devil.~~ wasn't an atheist.

Also: are there any Bible/Quran passages against this?

Well, you could change your nomological definition of god. Just set truth = god, set illusion = the devil, and you're back in the same ballpark! Cheesy

Besides, Jesus was a jew. That's pretty much atheist. Minus the god part.

And, since I began this service, camels have been FLYING through the eyes of needles.

I like the way you think, i think you are the first person i would think that would even know wtf i'm talking about when i get into religious debates about the truth of who/what god really is. and between me and you(and bitcoin forums) god = infinite. Probably self explanatory but the more i think about infinity the more I think that infinity is energy and energy is love and its that infinite love that keeps the universe going with those High vibrations.

(Didn't mean to sound all "hippy" on everybody, but I think about this and truly believe it, then I see scientists proving it everyday that energy is ultimate form of love; science is a different type of religion its a religion that doesn't stand for one word answers to solve problems such as "God made it that way" which is true but that doesn't help us solve anybody current situation, and i think just think its redick-ulas that people soley believe one or the other when everything is the truth and truth can only be infinite scince nobody is perfect which also means that nobody can know everything, again the answer is infinite)

//End Spritual Rant

Haha interesting. I agree/believe god = infinite (beyond a simple definition) where infinite = undefined, and perhaps is the limit of science/induction. A side note about energy...I think that energy is time, given that any change in the configuration of the content of the universe requires time. It seems that the sum of all possible configurations of content would require all of time, so it also seems that time itself may be energy and may be responsible for observable change. Love this stuff...

YEAH!! You know what i'm talking about Grin

Here's a little equation I made for fun when thinking about this stuff. Let me know what you think, I'd be interested...

(it is (x)) + (it is (all - x)) = (it is) all

In this equation, 'it is' is a distributed property of being, and 'x,' 'all - x,' and 'all' are conditional properties. so like "it is" (property of being) an apple (conditional).
But, since 'it is' distributes to all conditional properties, it can be removed from the equation, such that simply...

(x) + (all - x) = all

Easy enough right? Well, to me, this implies some weird stuff. It seems to imply that the distributive property of being (a constant -- 'being cannot not be') has both little and everything to do with the conditional properties.

On one hand, it seems as though the conditional nature of things as we recognize them blinds us from the ever-pervasive property of 'being' that is all around is. A property that is undefined because it is not related to any specific condition.
On the other hand, This property of being also seems responsible for allowing us to intellectualize about, and establish ratio between, conditional elements. This is obviously a good thing for us who try to navigate the world successfully day to day.

Thoughts?