Quote from: [-MaStERNoDeMaN-] on May 01, 2018, 11:17:26 PM

Quote from: tissmbs on May 01, 2018, 10:49:06 PM

Quote from: [-MaStERNoDeMaN-] on May 01, 2018, 08:41:24 PM

sigh. You really don't understand how crypto works or comprehend anything of what i said i see. It really is a shame that there are so many ignorant people around in the younger generation. I can see why you waste all your time chasing after worthless causes because you are simply unable to grasp the concept or the inner workings behind the entire scene right now. One day you will grow up and see that it's a dog eat dog world and that NO-1 should invest money into anything without re-searching it properly. You clearly talk of what you do not know, apart from dash EVERY masternode coin is a scam and every single one of the projects will fail. They are a make money now thing and none will be around in the future and the devs of all of these projects fully realize that and are taking advantage of the current crypto economic climate. For example "polis" is well respected among newbie masternode holders but do you really see everyone using polispay in the future? Of course not because it simply will not be able to get mass adoption and tbh why the hell would anyone want to use it. All these projects are total rubbish. At least osnwt's debate makes some good solid points and for the most part i don't disagree with him. He seems to understand the true reality of crypto as he has stated his problem is not with the coin but the dev himself. But you just have a problem with the whole system and you don't even realize it. Do you think that people in the crypto space are not here to make money but to follow some sort of ethical guide? Well that's not how things work i'm afraid. I'm not giving a speech about scamming is ok, i'm giving a speech about how to make money and not get caught up in the fanatic role or the policing the crypto scene role while the whales reap all the rewards. You need to get your piece of the pie to survive in this world it is crypto and full of drug dealers/money launderers/corrupt government officials and tax evaders not some ethics committee of girl scouts and church pastors.

You are right, I am being too idealistic about crypto and the world.

I hope people will read what you said and make a more informed decision.

I would like to believe that not every coin is the definition of scam, some people have an actual vision and not there to just make quick profits. if I was going to invest in a coin, I would do it with a real vision and not the typical copy paste website, or unrealistic goals.

I see many people who join this space with the notion of making money long term, not just quick cash. I have not been around MN coins enough to know whether they will thrive or not, I only join projects with a development team and realistic goals.

90% of the coins will most likely fail as any business.

As much as I can see where you are coming from, I have to believe that there are good people out there and even if they lose their money at least it would be
on a real practical vision and not some scam coin and if they get lucky then even better. Grin

In the end stock market or crypto is mostly speculation.

My only wish is that people stop fueling scammers like cropcoindev aka bytepaydev.

It is good to see that we have in fact found some common ground on some points. I was starting to think before that we will have to agree to disagree because our viewpoints were starting to seem like polar opposites. But i do agree with you that it is unfortunate that there are so many unscrupulous players around but it is the world we live in and we have to do the best to make what we can from the situation. I would like to see some new outstanding masternode coin emerge where everyone is a winner but the way masternodes are designed is almost like ponzi schemes unless they are made with a much lower roi to begin with than there are always going to be vast differences with early and later adopters and clear winners and losers on all of them.

The thing is your a day trader, different rules apply to you.
In fact if I could short all these crapcoins I would have been even more successful as a day trader myself.
Most new blood in crypto want to buy and hold long term, masternodes provide both that and a passive income daily. (or it looks like it at first)

This topic is to expose Bytepay and Crop being run by the same scammer. It's full of evidence (BTC address being shared) and as long as new comers to the crypto game can be warned about the scam I can feel like a did my part to stop them from loosing money and rather skip joining the crypto revolution