Quote from: aleksej996 on May 04, 2018, 10:56:26 PM

Quote from: Rmayle on May 01, 2018, 06:21:16 PM

The goneva convention considers willing human shields as enemy combatives, reguardless of sex or age. If someone willingly hides and supports an enemy they can then be treated as an enemy combatant.

And yes we do have wars, but if not for us everyone Im eiurope would be speaking German.

We are a warrior country, our whole 200 years of history have been about war. Look at the first 100 years. We fought the British, the French the American Indians and after that we fought each other in a terrible and costly civial war.

I am talking about willing human shields, I am talking about a first major publication that Wikileaks reviled. The footage called "Collateral murder".
You really don't have nothing to debate when you see wounded unarmed children being gunned down from a helicopter.
Really a shit thing to do. Not to mention that US involvement in these things are often (maybe even always, I don't know) unwelcome by the government of those countries (which they technically invade, against the rules of the UN, as Russia and China veto these things).

US is not a warrior country. 200 hundred years can barely be considered history in my opinion. That is nothing compared to thousands of years most countries exist. Those people you fought in the first 100 years either had to come to you literally all the way across the ocean or didn't have more advanced weapons than sticks. There was never a war with American Indians, they were never equipped for war, that was a genocide, just like holocaust was. Poor people never stood a chance and to this day you still call them Indians. They aren't American Indians, they are Americans, you are immigrants and very brutal ones at that.
You still don't give a shit about them.

During those 200 years the rest of the World went through things that your country never saw and never will. Times were only more violent the further you go back and Europe was always the epicenter of it.

PS: US helped only in the last World war. And Europe would not be speaking German now without you. It would take more time to defeat them, of course, and everyone is very grateful for the lives that were saved with US involvement (unfortunately a lot of them were lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well).
Of course battle of Stalingrad was a pretty big deal in defeating the Germans, but there is a lot that US did as well. It was a joint effort, so I wouldn't get that into a debate on who has done more. It is very shitty to get into that and very arrogant to assume that nothing could be done without US. Every super power did a lot there and none of them did majority of the work alone.

Please WW2 Europe was cowering, half of Europe was under German control, millions were getting slaughtered. Russia signed a treaty with Germany, which Germany didnt honor. As far as Japan, well those bombs saved 10X more lives than it costs, on all sides. We have made our peace with Japan over that.

what was done in that video did not violate the rules of war. You forget that they were enemy combatants. If they would have surrendered then they would have been taken into custody and treated for their wounds. They didnt. If an enemy throws down their weapon and runs they are fair game, if they throw down their weapons and surrender they are considered enemy prisoners of war and are treated as such. Besides they dont follow the rules of war why should we?

Also there are super powers, Russia Europe etc and there is the US the most powerful military in the history of the world. Leads the world in culture and freedoms. Leads the world in economy (CA was just listed as the 5th worlds best economy, and CA is just a state not a nation) We went into another country, Pakistan, and assasinated one of their citizens, just miles from one of their military bases and nothing could and will not be done with it.

On September 11 2001 the world shoved a big finger in our face, then get mad when we bit it off. It isnt going to stop until the world is in a smoking pile of ruins, Im ok with that.