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And that's exactly why religions are useless, this is all based on science and research. We don't need religion for any of this, religion does nothing, it's outdated. Coincube uses a lot of science and philosophy in his arguments, it's funny that he doesn't realize none of that is in the bible.

Science is in its infancy. So far, the more we find out scientifically, the more we are shown that science has a lot farther to go than ever.

Religion jumps to the major points of life. It bypasses science, and is far more important than science because of this. Someday science will catch up to religion a little... maybe.

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I could not believe CoinCube posted this, then I saw your name, LOL.

Religion jumps to conclusions without any proof, mostly hand waving and sourcing scripture as proof of their claims.

Didn't you ever read Proverbs in the Bible? If you had, you would find that it is full of practical advise. Most of the other book have practical advice, as well.

Science, however, is full of ideas that many people think have been proven, like big bang for example, and black hole theory. Science is the thing making claims without proof.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

BTW, thanks to science you are able to type your outrageous posts on this very forum.

Thanks to non-scientists, the foundations of science were laid, so science had a place to begin. Consider the simple wheel, for example. And the printing press. Both of which were made by engineers, not scientists, and without which science would never have amounted to anything at all.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

If it was up to religion, you would be chiseling them out on stone tablets.

Without the popular religions, there would be no order in society, and scientists would be non-existent... or at best, would be chiseling out of stone.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

Not sure why you are so against science. Maybe because science exposes how ridiculous some of the Christian scripture claims are?

Not sure why you are so against looking at science from a practical point of view. You treat science as though it were God... or the most important religion of all.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

Man created from dirt, woman created from a rib bone, flat Earth supported by pillars, global flood 4000 years ago, 6000 year old Earth, talking snakes, human race created by two people in one big incest etc., etc., the list is too long to keep posting it here.

When you have the writings of the witnesses, who heard it directly from God, why don't you revise things like your stupid 13.5 billion years to match the facts?

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

If I were you, I would drop the nonsense, and if you want to believe in the supernatural, do so, just don't tell me that God sent himself to sacrifice himself for the sins of people he created and designed the moral code for. Instead of just forgiving the sins, without all the theatrics.

Obviously you don't understand the reasoning behind it, so just believe it like all the rest of the believers who will receive eternal life. Or don't you want eternal life?

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

Put the Bible away, and ask yourself: "Would I believe in a supernatural God if the scripture did not exist and why would I believe in such a claim?" What proofs do you have besides the scripture?

Without the Bible, the simple proof is the machine nature of the universe. Intelligent designers design the machines that people make. The machine of the universe has been made by Someone Who is far greater than mankind. The word "God" barely fits Him He is so extremely intelligent and powerful.

Many people look for aliens who are more intelligent and smarter than people. But you disdain the greatest Alien of all, One Who is able to build universes. Why are you trying to remain in a backward state? Step up to truth.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 09:29:23 PM

What does your God look like, do you talk to him, does he talk back to you?

The Bible is God's Word. Read it any time you want to hear him talking to you.

If you won't change and become a believer in Jesus salvation, you will never find out what God looks like. He isn't going to share His goodness with someone who says he wants to see, yet won't accept what he is shown.

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You not hearing me. I do not believe in any Gods, your Jesus included. Nor I believe in angels, ghosts, hell, demons, or any other imaginary characters from your Christian fairy tale. Your God does not scare me at all because I know he is not real, your threats of not being 'saved' fall on deaf ears. I'm just pointing out the obvious nonsense in your Christian ideology.

Why do you think I am not hearing you? We are different. I do not believe that God exists. I know He exists. I can't believe it now that I know it. You believe He exists, even though you are trying to convince yourself that He doesn't.

In order to not believe in something, you have to believe in something that negates the thing that you don't believe in. You can't just remain in a void regarding something that you do not believe in, especially when you vehemently talk about not believing it. So, what do you believe in that negates the idea of God in you? That thing is your religion. Why is it your religion? Because of the word believe. Belief is like faith. It is attached to religions. You can't believe the thing that you know. Either you know it, or you believe it because you don't know it for sure.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 11:10:11 PM

You asked me if I don't want eternal life? Of course, I want that! It would be boring as hell, but sure, nobody wants to die.

Why do you think it would be boring as hell? Haven't you been watching all the new inventions that science is bringing about? And they have only scratched the surface of what exists to learn about. Don't you have any imagination at all?

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 11:10:11 PM

Just because you and I want something it does not mean that it will happen, especially something like eternal life. It is physically impossible, at least not in the carbon/water form.

But you don't know that it is impossible. How do I know that you don't know? Because life is impossible to exist as it is. The only reason we know that life exists, is that we are living it, and we see it all around us. It is impossible for us to make life. But even if we could a little, we are so behind what we see in the world around us, that life really is literally impossible for us. So why would you think that it is impossible to happen a second time, since it couldn't have happened the first time, but did?

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 11:10:11 PM

Maybe when the technology gets to the point when your brain can be uploaded to silicon, you can live forever.

But did you see that little word you used? Maybe! Maybe means maybe not, as well. And currently, the maybe not is so extremely much greater than the maybe, that it would be easier to teleport to Mars than do your silicon idea.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 11:10:11 PM

Not in just in one form, but in multiple forms at the same time. Although this might cause some mental issues (schizophrenia, multiple personality disorders etc). How would you know which robot is really you?

That's part of the big point. Science doesn't think along the lines that it takes to discover the spirit or soul. Some scientists are starting to examine the kinds of science that might apply. But they are so far behind, that thinking about applying the soul to silicon is super science fiction, superseded in greatness only by evolution science fiction.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 06, 2018, 11:10:11 PM

Why did your God decide to pass his message to humanity though 40+ authors over the course of 2500 years? It seems a very ineffective way to get your message across, especially for someone to 'designed' ever expanding universe. Does this not bother you at all?

God talked to Adam and Eve face to face. But they didn't believe Him enough to keep from sinning. Then there were others He talked to with words from Heaven, like Cain. But Cain disobeyed, as well. And, of course, there is you, who won't even believe Him though He has given many writers to tell you. Just be glad that God is patient with you enough that He allows you to live, with the hope that you will obey Him from now on... rather than striking you down for not believing all His witnesses.

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