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Why did your God decide to pass his message to humanity though 40+ authors over the course of 2500 years? It seems a very ineffective way to get your message across, especially for someone to 'designed' ever expanding universe. Does this not bother you at all?

God talked to Adam and Eve face to face. But they didn't believe Him enough to keep from sinning. Then there were others He talked to with words from Heaven, like Cain. But Cain disobeyed, as well. And, of course, there is you, who won't even believe Him though He has given many writers to tell you. Just be glad that God is patient with you enough that He allows you to live, with the hope that you will obey Him from now on... rather than striking you down for not believing all His witnesses.

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So I guessing the answer is no.

How about this? You said that the Bible is true because it is a witness account of what happened. And as such it is reliable.

My question is: "Adam and Eve were the first man and woman. When God talked to them in the Garden of Eden, who was the witness to write about it? Some hunched Jew hiding in the bushes?"

Same goes for the Quran, "Who was the witness when Muhammad (a blind man) went from Mecca to Jerusalem, alone at night, and then flew to heaven, nobody saw it, yet someone wrote about it? Who was the secret witness?"

The writers of these texts had a vivid imagination (talking snakes, winged horses), today, their work would put them in the same genre as Harry Potter books.

Straight out, Jesus is the witness. To understand, there needs to be a little explanation.

While the Bible never uses the term "Triune God," it shows us that God is One God made up of three Persons in a way that we can't understand clearly. The three Persons are the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

Obviously, the HS is a spirit, so it is difficult for Him to directly express what He sees in human ways. In fact, this is why He uses Bible writers to express what God wants us to know.

The Father is God above all, and maintains all things through His great power. He doesn't come in human form. Rather, He expresses God through a voice in the air, or through thunder in nature, etc.

Jesus is a man as well as God. Because He is a man, He has flesh and blood just like people do. So, He can witness just like people do.

Now, look at Genesis 3:8

Quote from: http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-8.htm

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

Does God walk? What part of God could walk? Certainly not the HS. He is a spirit, and spirits don't have bodies to walk with. Certainly not the Father. He is directing the affairs of the universe and beyond. It was Jesus, Who has a human body, so that He is able to walk.

But, but, but... you will say... Jesus wasn't born until 4,000 years later. How could He be walking at the Beginning?

There is a term found throughout the Old Testament. This term is "The Angel of the Lord." The Bible has expressed that this term is referring to Jesus, before He was born. Bible scholars have confirmed it. You can Internet search for it. After Jesus arose from the dead, His body was a glorified body, never able to die again. Also, the confines and limitations of space-time don't restrain this body. So, it can exist anywhere at any time.

The point? God is the witness to Adam and Eve. And He is witness in three Persons as well as God as a whole. And He has expressed what He has witnessed about people, through His prophets, throughout the Bible writings that He has authorized. And, He is expressing Himself to you, right now, through your reading of these words (not that I am Jesus or God). Wake up before it is too late for you.

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Your imagination is truly amazing.

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Makes sense, thanks BADecker for explaining it. I think I understand your whole belief system better now.

Not only you believe in nonsense, but you create more nonsense in the process.

Your dopamine levels must be really high. It is ok though, just don't hurt anyone, and don't preach this BS to children.
That would constitute a child abuse.

You should think about writing gospels. I bet "Gospel by BSDecker" would sell really well.

Thanks for the +1. But would you be so kind as to give me some merit points?

My explanation of what is in the Bible, is there in the Bible, for anyone to read. It isn't my idea. Read it and see.

To see your silliness, all anybody has to do is go back and look at the proof I show here and there. You haven't been able to refute or rebut my proof. This shows that you are attempting to propagandize people. Doing such places you into the category of a troll.

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