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Colored coins or Mastercoin or whatever

Those aren't competitors to exchanges, in their current or dreamed forms they do not provide what people expect, like liquidity. It's a fancy way of doing direct shares, no more.

I think when they get figured out, they will become a competitor to exchanges. Even direct shares, as they are now, is a competition to exchanges. How many direct shares of AM are there vs how many are listed on Havelock? Look at how many shareholders chose to hold on to their shares after BTCT vs moving them to Havelock. That doesn't show much confidence in Havelock.

These solutions are not ready for wide use, yet, but make no mistake, centralized exchanges are not what the market is currently requesting.

bro you write some of the most delusional, shortsighted, ignorant comments in this board

wtf do u know about what the market wants or needs..

just cuz 4 corny knowitalls on a forum say decentralized is the future dont make it the death of all things that make sense

smh

how much pot do you smoke?

talk less please

Rage much?

Even if the proposed solutions of colored coins or mastercoin do not directly compete with Havelock, they or some other decentralized system will be run over various marketplaces which will compete with Havelock. There is also the possibility of somebody buying the BTCT code and starting up another exchange, or somebody writing up new code or whatever. The barrier to entry in this space is very low, companies will list at the exchange that gives them the best combination of price, exposure, and security.

whats your point, people gon make things that do things, and people gon do things and maybe not other things?

thx bruh

this thread is for pointing out that HIF is a ripoff all on its own, can we stay on topic?

Did you read what I wrote? My point is that Havelock is in a field with a very low barrier to entry, so even though there are few competitors right now there will be new competitors in the future. Therefore, the risk of losing money on this is high. The proposed reward, even in a best case scenario, does not balance the risk. Therefore, this is severely overpriced.

Why are you getting so mad, I was agreeing with you!

[edit] It looks like you can decrease the number of active funds by 1, xbond is closing, which should lower the projected income.