Quote from: Hawker on November 21, 2013, 07:27:18 PM

Quote from: Mike Christ on November 21, 2013, 07:24:20 PM

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Quote from: Mike Christ on November 21, 2013, 07:05:15 PM

Quote from: Hawker on November 21, 2013, 07:01:38 PM

Quote from: Mike Christ on November 21, 2013, 06:54:56 PM

Quote from: Hawker on November 21, 2013, 11:03:47 AM

But I prefer a national set of laws that reflects my values.

No, too inefficient. How about a local set of laws you and your peers and their businesses all agree upon? That way you're not getting in the way of people you've never met before, nor will stupid laws like "ban alcohol" or "cut off a lady's clitter" stretch very far.

You have no morality.

Female genital mutilation is an abomination. The idea that the local majority can hire their own police force that will allow it disgusts me.

You're making an assumption; I don't like it either, but morality is subjective, friend. You have no right to force your morals on another.

I do. So do you.

Bzzt, wrong. You don't know how this "rights" thing works, do you?

Mike if you are editting my replies, the done thing is to write "...snip..." where you cut.

Is the price of anarchy is that we have to allow female genital mutilation?

Of course not; the reason why I cut off the rest of your reply is because the first two sentences is where you made an error.

Here's how rights work: you say, "I want the right to enforce my beliefs on you; I will extend this right to you if you extend this right to me." Then I will either say, "Okay, this sounds reasonable, you can enforce your beliefs on me if you let me enforce my beliefs on you", or I will say, "No, sorry, I'd rather you didn't enforce your beliefs on me, therefore I will not enforce my beliefs on you."

Now, when you say, "I have the right to force my morals on another. You also have this right," you've assumed a position of authority in which I have no say in whether or not you or I have this right. This is not how a right works; you don't simply get to decide what rights everyone will have.

About female genital mutilation: you've assumed that you have the right to allow or disallow this. People are perfectly capable of making these decisions; the point isn't to force people not to with the threat of violence, the point is to enlighten people with knowledge so they can make the right decision. This is the difference between you, the authoritarian, and me, the libertarian. I'm sorry, but I don't like your system at all; it does not encourage intelligence or liberty, it only encourages fear and obedience.